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JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« on: Thursday 08 March 07 04:14 GMT (UK) »

JOHN OSBORN ch. 30 Dec., 1811, Thurleigh, Bdf.


(Father = John Watts Osborn abt. 1782, Thurleigh
Mother = Susan/Susannah LAW , abt. 1786, Bletsoe.
There was another brother also named JOHN, b. 1810 and died 1811.)

Lookup for 1841 census  (also 51, 61 and 71, but do I need to start new topics for each census?)

Let me know so I can do the right thing!!
                   Thanks,                     Osborn???
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 March 07 07:49 GMT (UK) »

Hello Osborn

According to the Thurleigh PR, there was a John Osborn christened on 29 JULY 1810, parents John & Susan.  Then another entry for John chr 30 Dec 1810.

The burial for John, infant was 23 July 1811

Another child Sam (to John & Susan) was chr 22 DEC 1811

John
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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 March 07 07:53 GMT (UK) »

What's going on?

Why post on Hunts when it's a Beds look up?

Isn't this the same request that you posted on the Beds board 3 days ago (and got a complete answer to the same day)?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=218635.0
You won't get a different answer by reposting on a different county, and you'll get people's backs up into the bargain.

The right thing is to post on the appropriate county Lookup Requests board, not on the main county board (that saves the moderator having to move them each time) with the Subject "John Osborn 1841-51-61-71 census lookup". Having more than one census in a lookup is OK.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 March 07 08:08 GMT (UK) »

... thought I'd seen the name before - recently

Anyway the chr of John on 30 Dec 1811 on the IGI are member submissions, the PR extract has it in 1810
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 March 07 08:51 GMT (UK) »

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The extracted entries on the IGI look odd, as John and Susan would have had 2 sons both named John living at the same time, before one or other of them died in June 1811. On the face of it, it looks as though the second John should be 30 Dec 1811, not 1810,  yet it doesn't seem as though it's an IGI transcription error as they had another son Samuel christened on 22 Dec 1811, so it's hardly likely they'd have baptised another 8 days afterwards. And the burial date looks right as 1810 would have predated both 1810 christenings.

I'm perplexed!

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 March 07 13:05 GMT (UK) »

Could there be more than one John & Susan Osborn in Thurleigh ?
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Clement - Croydon
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 March 07 13:26 GMT (UK) »

It's odd as there doesn't seem to be any other Osborns reproducing at that time in Thurleigh. Otherwise I'd have wondered if the vicar had put the wrong couple down as the parents in the PR

later....might John 1 have been sickly and wasn't expected to live long, so they named the next John as well? I've never come across it before but it's the only explanation I can come up with for now
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: JOHN OSBORN 1811 - 1841 lookup
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 March 07 03:00 GMT (UK) »

I had found:

Family Search Family Group Record:

John Osborn (i) ch. 29 July, 1810, Thurleigh, Bdf.
                          d. 23 June, 1811

John Osborn (ii) ch. 30 Dec.  1811, Thurleigh, Bdf.

then, in the IGI Indiv. Record:

John Osborn (ii) ch. 30 Dec, 1810, Thurleigh, Bdf.

then, 1841 Census Thurleigh HO107/8/18 f 12B, pge 19
John Osborn, 25  (born 1816???)

then, 1851 census HO/107/1751 ed5. fol,167, pge. 13
John Osborn, 48  (born 1813???)

1861 and 1871 census  both suggest that he was born
1813.

What to believe??

THEN, there is a Peesey Osborn ch. 17 Jan, 1819 and an Emma Osborn ch. 3 Sept, 1821. Both with father = John Osborn and Mother = Susannah.  (These last two are from the IGI Indiv. record.)     

Where do I go from here?         Osborn:Smiley
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