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Looking for Withers- completed
« on: Thursday 08 March 07 19:37 GMT (UK) »
I am having problems looking for Withers.  I have found the family in 1881 census, but from there I don't know where they have gone. 
George Withers 50 - Mary Withers 44- Mary 15 - Ann 12 - George 9 - John 7 -
Ada 4 .  I know Ada came to Canada when she was 24 and married in Galt Ontario.  I am trying to find her family, where they went.  I know they didn't come to Galt.
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 March 07 19:37 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to say the lived inLeicester.
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 March 07 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi grammatj8

1891
RG12/2536 129 28
St Mary, Leicestershire
(38 Filbert St
George Hy Withers, head, 61, Gardiner
Mary Ann, wife, 55
George Hy, son, 20, Trimmer?
Ann C, day, 21?, Embroideress
John, son, 18, (something) weaver
Ada, dau, 14, ditto
Edith, dau, 9, scholar
Reginald, grandson, 4

All born Leicester
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks that I had already known, sorry about that.  What I am wondering is what happened to them from there.  I'm sure George and Mary would have been buried in Leicester.  But the rest of the family where did they go.  Grandson where did he go.
Any info would be helpful.
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Do you already have 1901 as well?  Tongue Sorry, can't help after that ...

1901
RG13/2989 38 20
Leicester formerly St Margaret
1 Clarence St
Mary A Withers, head, wid, 67, can't read occupation: Fancytex?
Ann C, dau, s, 25, Embroidery Hand
Alice, dau, s, 23, Hosiery Hand
Edith, dau, s, 18, Hosiery Hand
Reginald Drakely, grandson, 13, Shop Assistant
Geo Hy Drakely, grandson, 10
William Treadgold, boarder, s, 27, Plasterer, b. Worcester Redditch
Harry Harrison, boarder, m, 34, Fibrons Plasterer, b. Yorks Leeds

All but the boarders born Leicester.  
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:19 GMT (UK) »
So it looks like one of the girls married a Drakely or had illegimate children and used the Dad's last name Drakely. Am I going somewhere with this?  Thanks
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Mary Ann ...

I can see a marriage
June 1887 Leicester 7a 334
Mary Ann Withers to possibly Edward Charles Drakeley
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Yet it looks like She is still at home as well under Withers. 
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:33 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Mary Ann at home it 1891 or 1901  Huh

However I can't see the birth registrations for the Drakeley children either, nor an Edward Charles Drakeley anywhere  Undecided
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:40 GMT (UK) »
The Mary Anne Withers we see in 1881 is the Mother. 
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 March 07 21:05 GMT (UK) »
I thought I found a John Withers married to an Ada Withers sometime around 1900.  They had a little girl Lilian Withers she died in 1901.  It looks like Ada Withers that was married to John died in 1907.  Would he have married another Withers.  As my Ada came to Canada.
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 March 07 21:15 GMT (UK) »
I can see the marriage John Withers - Ada Underwood, Jun 1894 Leicester.

However I understand your Ada was a Withers by birth?  Huh Why would John have married a Withers? There is a possible marriage in Leicester 1908, John Withers to either Florence Chambers or Maria Hickson...  Smiley
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 March 07 21:33 GMT (UK) »
If it is the same John, he married at 35 wouldn't that be a little old at that time.
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 March 07 07:50 GMT (UK) »
I wouldn't think 35 is too old to remarry ... Why so?

Then of course we haven't got any proof that he's the same John Withers - only the marriage cert would tell.  Smiley
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Re: Looking for Withers
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 March 07 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Why is it especially in England we have to order a certificate to be sure.  In an instance like this you could spend many $$$ trying to find something out that probably isn't there.     Sad  I really am discouraged when it comes to this family.  Thanks for all your help.  Maybe one day I will be able to find out more about this family. 
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