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Topic: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811 (Read 813 times)
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drewsankie
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My 6 X Gt Uncle James Brindley
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I have almost completed ALL my 4X Gt Grandparents, But i am missing just a few, and i hope perhaps someone my shed light on them.
So looking for the parents and Baptism dates of the following
Northamptonshire
John Thompson Born abt 1807 Mears Ashby
Ann Eyte or Ette Born abt 1809 Earls Barton
Buckinghamshire
Elizabeth Spicer Born abt 1797 Wycombe
John Lewin Born abt 1790 / 1800 Penn
Sarah Reynolds Born abt 1811 Stony Stratford
I will also do the same posting on the Bucks list as well
Regards Ian Markie
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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mgeneas
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At Mears Ashby
born 2nd Apr, bap 24th May, John son of Thomas and Mary TOMPSON
born 14th Mar, bap 24th May, John son of Samuel and Hannah TOMPSON
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Marilyn
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drewsankie
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My 6 X Gt Uncle James Brindley
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 Here we go again
Its like the Gibson.s all over again, which one is which. !
My John Thompson married Eliza Archer 13th Oct 1834 Mears Ashby
They had 10 Children
John, Mary Ann, Martha, George, Catherine, George, Elizabeth, Anna, Hannah and Ruth.
So i wonder if the Marriage will show anything ?
As i cant say which one is the correct parents.
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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seahall
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Hi Ian
Well it may not show a father's name as too early unless he signed as a witness. Could show another sibling.?
I suppose you need to find the 2 families baptising their children at the period noted by Marilyn and work from there.
Sandy
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drewsankie
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Hello Sandy
Yes good idea, This really is the gibsons all over again !
I could of screamed when i saw that LOL !
ok let me see if we can track them down in the 1841 and 51 census.
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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drewsankie
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My 6 X Gt Uncle James Brindley
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Ok now then
In 1841 Census there is only 1 John Thompson born around that time and he is married to Eliza.
Now checking the 1851 Census, i have a feeling one may of died early...
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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drewsankie
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My 6 X Gt Uncle James Brindley
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Ok 1851 Census
Now shows two
my John with eliza in Mears Ashby
and a John Thompson born Mears Ashby with a Margaret born about 1807 living in Moulton with two children Susan 6 and Elizabeth 3
Margaret was born in Overstone.
And there is a marriage for him John Thomson to Margaret Willis 1st May 1848 Overstone. John ( a Shepherd) is the son of John 
See this is getting more and more like the Gibsons LOL !
Back to the drawing board and another think.
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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seahall
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Hi Ian
Well can help a little bit.
Although feeling un-well (bless) I went to the Library for 1 hour to look up your brood.
Apparently Alan Clarke is indexing Baptisms for Northamptonshire at the moment, he
may already have done the Parish in question why not ask him as quicker than
trawling through all the fiche. Or Marilyn as I think she has previously said about them.
Anyway you will never guess how one of the John's died.
Your's are beginning to be as tragic as mine.
I am of the same opinion as yourself.
I looked through the burials to see if one of the children of 1800's John died and
he does not appear to have from 1807 to 1851s.
Only one on 1841 census of right age.
No other one who matches elsewhere.
Your John died in 1855 aged 47.
Eliza in 1866 aged 74.
Both Samuel and Thomas senior re-marry in the village as widower's.
Thomas was a Parish Clerk therefore name is on some of the certificates as witness so not necessarily father.
There were quite a lot of children being born to the families of Samuel and Thomas
didn't have time to write down.
Hence maybe help from above people.
Found a few other Thompson marrying in the village but no real clues.
So digest and say if you need further help.
Sandy
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drewsankie
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Oh your are such an angel to have a look when you are not feeling well ! 
i hope you do get better very soon (please..)
So you say about how one of the Johns died ? how ?
and you also say about some marriages having the witness of Thomas as he was parish clerk although not proof as you say but a good indication of a relation. did one of them happen to be a John ?
Could do with looking at John and Elizas marriage just to see who the witnesses were
Yes i could ask Marilyn is this Marilyn the same as the one that gave me the two baptisms?
As you say about tragic i still think that James Ashley and his wife was a real sad one for me As Carey was born in May 1839 his father died Oct 1839 followed by his mother in 1840, poor Carey was not even 2 years old.
James died of Consumption and Ann of Fever. !
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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mgeneas
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Ian
Here are all the children for the 2 Thompson families in Mears Ashby.
They seem to have moved there from somewhere else as there are none earlier. Sorry I can't check after 1812 or burials.
Variously spelt Thompson, Thomson, Tompson
Samuel and Hannah had
William 1804, John 1807, Hannah 1809 and Ann 1811
Thomas and Mary had
Ann Clark 1789, William 1790, Thomas 1792, Joseph 1793, John 1785, Clarke 1798, Mary 1800, Kilbirne 1803, Elisabeth 1805, John 1807
Perhaps a look at the witnesses of the marriages for these children might find some clues. Or following them all down through the census.
Marilyn
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seahall
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Hi Again Ian
I have the marriages entries for Mears Ashby Parish Church
Tibley Roberts to Elizabeth Thompson
Pg 12 No 34 12 August 1824 by Banns.
Joseph Thompson to Lucy Whiting
Pg 8 No 24 19 August 1821 by Banns.
John Howell to Elizabeth Thompson
Pg 14 No 42 31st August 1826 by Banns.
Now which Elizabeth belongs to which. LOL.
Also
Samuel Tompson Widower to Hannah Tyrrel (Samuel signs as S Thompson)
Pg 5 No 13 8th September 1819 by Banns.
Thomas Thompson Widower to Charlotte Norton
Pg 11 No 31 14th November 1822 By Banns.
Will P.M. you other details later.
Sandy
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drewsankie
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For some reason i am not getting any e mails saying i have a message !
thank you Marilyn and Sandy. for all this info.
Anyway looking at the names of all the children, cus as we know familys do like to carry names on. so did it help, well yes and no. LOL !
Children of John Thompson and Eliza
1st John 1835 clearly after himself
2nd Mary Ann 1837 could be a clue ! Mary after Johns Mother ? Thomas and Mary and then Ann which was Eliza`s mothers name !
3rd Martha 1839 (my Gt Gt Grandmother)
4th George 1839 After Eliza's Father
5th Catherine 1841
6th George 1844
7th Elizabeth 1847
8th Anna abt 1850
9th Hannah 1853 which throws a spanner in the works ! Samuel's wifes name !
10th Ruth 1855
So yes i think i will try and follow all lines perhaps something will show up. also i will look into the 2 witnesses that also may give a clue.
I note that Thomas Thompson married Mary ? then Charlotte Norton.
Samuel Thompson's 2nd marriage is to Hannah Tyrell in 1819 so was his 1st wife also a Hannah ?
Ok i think now i need to write this all down, this is worse then being a detective !, i will see if i can create a family tree on paper.
Yes i see what you mean about poor John, What was he doing riding on the wagon Shaft ! And he was my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather. But i note he died in 1855 but it is not recorded untill 1856 ! an inquest maybe ?
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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drewsankie
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Well he is something
Thomas Thompson of Stanwick to Mary Clerke otp 12th Nov 1787 Brixworth.
So Thomas is from Stanwick.
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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drewsankie
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I think i have solved it lol !
John Thompson who married Margeret in the 1851 & 61 Census was a Shepherd
he had children
Susan, elizabeth, Mary, Louisa, Kilburn, John
the name Kilburn also crops up on Thomas Thompson side in 1803 !
John Thompson who married Eliza was an Ag Lab as was his witness David Brown, and as we know he did not have any unusal names in his family but did include Hannah !
But the Marriage date for Samuel and Hannah does not tie up with the childrens date so who was his 1st wife.... ?
My John did not have any name like Kilburn so it looks to me as if he is the son of Samuel and Hannah
Ian
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukGENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS ! Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants Allen, Northampton Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia Stubbs. Northants, Staffs Greenough, Northampton Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks. Whitehead, London, Scotland. Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford |
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