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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 17 April 07 19:59 BST (UK) »

That would be wonderful if you could this John Lewin is becoming a real brickwall if i could only tie him in with Elizabeth Spicer in Penn then we would be on to something.

I just looked on the IGI and found 2 marriages for William and Elizabeth
William Spicar to Elizabeth Chapman 24th Sep 1789 High Wycombe
and William Spicer to Elizabeth Chapman 24th Sep 1786 High Wycombe
William born abt 1761 High Wycombe.
So which one is correct ? which does make Eliza rather late if she was Christend in 1799 ! so perhaps i have the wrong marriage ?

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GENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS !

Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand
Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants
Allen, Northampton
Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia
Stubbs. Northants, Staffs
Greenough, Northampton
Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks.
Whitehead, London, Scotland.
Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 April 07 20:09 BST (UK) »

Yet again looking on the IGI and there are two christings to William And Elizabeth
Charlotte Spicer 19th feb 1775 Chalfont st Giles
and
Edward Spicer 10th Sep 1786 Chalfont St Giles.
Could be the same parents too.

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GENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS !

Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand
Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants
Allen, Northampton
Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia
Stubbs. Northants, Staffs
Greenough, Northampton
Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks.
Whitehead, London, Scotland.
Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 17 April 07 20:36 BST (UK) »

I would'nt go to far with the Chalfont births. People tended not to move about too much about at that time, Let me have a look at siblings in Wycombe and I'll get back to you.
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 10:08 BST (UK) »

That is a view i have always held but, have found quite a few of my family moved around an awful lot. and not to places where you would expect, as some of my family where moving to villages from towns, while others were doing the opposite. (but then again are family still does these strange things LOL )
I will hold fire, and see what you do come up with
Thank you so much for your help, non of this would be possiable without you.

Ian
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GENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS !

Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand
Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants
Allen, Northampton
Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia
Stubbs. Northants, Staffs
Greenough, Northampton
Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks.
Whitehead, London, Scotland.
Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 10:25 BST (UK) »

I am shopping today so will nip in and have a look at HW is fully transcribed so won't need a reader for the Spicer family - siblings and the marriage.

Regrettably I will need a reader to check for John Lewin so will book one today and get back to you.

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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 15:26 BST (UK) »

Booked a reader for Friday so may be able to come up with something for your John Lewin then.

The marriage of William Spicer and Elizabeth Chapman took place 24/9/1786.

William and Elizabeth were quite prolific over the next 21 years. Not unusual at that time. All baptised HW.

William 21/12/1788
Lucey 15/1/1792
Bethia 14/6/1793
Charles 18/2/1795
Lucy 10/9/1797
Elizabeth 2/4/1799
John 7/6/1801
Ann 20/2/1803
Esther 24/3/1805
John 14/6/1807

Looks like they lost two of their children and renamed their new children after them. Again not unusual.

Jo
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 17:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Jo
You ar such a star, i really thought i was going to hit a brickwall with the Spicer family.
I really cannot thank you enough for what you are doing for me, and i wish i could find the words to say more than thank you.
I do hope you can find John Lewin. that i think would really make my week, after having such a bad one.

Yet again thank you so much, and if you ever find family down here Dover or Canterbury area, then just say i will always be glad to help.
Ian
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GENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS !

Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand
Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants
Allen, Northampton
Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia
Stubbs. Northants, Staffs
Greenough, Northampton
Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks.
Whitehead, London, Scotland.
Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 April 07 17:14 BST (UK) »

The birth you found on the IGI for William Spicer c 1761 is a figment of someones imagination based on the marriage 25 years later in HW. (The births on the IGI which say about should really being ignored I'm afraid)

I checked all the baptisms in HW from 1753 to 1768 and found no William Spicer at all. I did however find Elizabeth Chapmans baptism to Thomas and  Bethia 20/10/1765.

A quick look at the actual marriage entry, rather than Phillimores shows that one of the witnesses to William & Elizabeths marriage was Thomas Chapman. It states BOTP

With regard to your John Lewin, not much luck at all. I checked in adjacent parishes of Penn - Little Missenden, Amersham, Beaconsfield, Wooburn H Wycombe and Hughenden. And there were some John Lewins in Hughenden and Amersham but not the correct age. For instance there was a John and Sarah having children in the 1790's in Amersham but not a John and there was a Sarah Lewin wife of John buried in Hughenden in 1737. I am beginning to wonder, if he died before 1841, if he perhaps was a lot older than his wife and was born  alot earlier.

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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #23 on: Friday 20 April 07 20:56 BST (UK) »

Thank you Jo
That is a high amount of work you have done, must of taken you ages, and i thank you so much.
well at least then we can say that John lewin may or may not be of the parish when he married, perhaps another one of those that was never christend ?
and perhaps you be right that the John Lewin i seek may of died earlier.
Sadly this will be one of many brickwalls. and one day the answer just may turn up.
But thank you for doing all of this for me i cannot thank you enough.
You have managed to further my chapmans, which i thought would be another brickwall.
So yet again Thank you
With the kindest of regards Ian
P.S. if at any time i can help you please do say.

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GENEALOGISTS DON`T DIE THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS !

Markie, Northants, London, Scotland, New Zealand
Gibson,Gt Doddington, Denton Northants
Allen, Northampton
Ashley,Kettering Burton Latimer, Kings Cliffe, Australia
Stubbs. Northants, Staffs
Greenough, Northampton
Lewin, Brownsell, Bucks.
Whitehead, London, Scotland.
Thompson, Mears Ashby Northants/ Tiney, Woodford
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian,

Great to see our side of the family developing.

What does BOTP mean?

Thanks
Lisa
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:06 BST (UK) »

Could this be the marriage for Thomas Chapman & Bethia from the IGI
THOS CHAPMAN
BETHIER BURKET
  Marriage:  14 OCT 1754   High Wycombe, Buckingham, England

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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:07 BST (UK) »

And a possible birth for Bethia from the IGI
Bethier Burket 
 
Christening:  31 JAN 1728   Wycombe, , Buckingham, England

Parents:
  Father:  Edward Burket 
  Mother:  Bethia Walker 
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:13 BST (UK) »

and another marriage from the IGI

Bethea Walker 
Marriages:
  Spouse:  Edward Burket
  Marriage:  24 MAY 1724   Of, High Wycombe, Buckingham, England

 
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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:16 BST (UK) »

and Bethia Walker's birth from the IGI

Bethia Walker 
Christening:  13 JAN 1705   Wycombe, , Buckingham, England

Parents:
  Father:  William Walker
  Mother:  Anne Saunders

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Re: Baptism records 4X Gt Grandparents 1790 to 1811
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 22 April 07 09:26 BST (UK) »

and another possile marriage from the IGI

WM. WALKER 
Marriages:
  Spouse:  ANNE SANDERS 
  Marriage:  10 NOV 1700   High Wycombe, Buckingham, England

 
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