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STONE Help please
« on: Saturday 10 March 07 07:58 GMT (UK) »

Hi everyone, im looking for some help: i have a James Stone of Buckinghamshire born approx 1853 to James stone and Harriet Stone, nee Sear.  Hope someone can help. Cheers.  James Jnr came to NZ and married Hannah Maria Grantham 'annie' and had a daughter Harriet Ethel.  ( born 1887, died 1946 )
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Re: STONE HELP PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:16 GMT (UK) »

I have them on the 1861 census at Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire

James Stone Head M 43 Agric Lab Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Hariot Wife M 42 Lace Maker Buckinghamshire Whaddon
Ann daur Un 18 Plaiter Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Ellen daur Un 14 Plaiter Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Susanna daur 12 Plaiter Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Jane daur 10 Scholar Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
James son 8 Scholar Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Joseph Sear son 5 Scholar Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
John Sear son 1 Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
RG9; Piece: 870; Folio: 35; Page: 10

It seems strange that the names of the youngest are Sear unless they have only recently married and Sear is possibly a previous marriage name of Hariot.  The only way to know for sure is by either the birth certificate of one of the youngsters, or the marriage certificate of James and Hariot.
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:22 GMT (UK) »


Hi Phishy,

I have just had a look at the census and it looks as though Sear is the middle name for John and Joseph, the enumerator has ditto'd the surname.

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N.Yks., D'ham: Gains/Gaines.
N. Yks.: Burrill/Burrell, Clarkson, Terry, Percival, Thackeray, Robinson, Elsworth, Bowe, A'ton, Paylor, Addison, Stelling.
D'ham/Eng. Illinois/Missouri/Rosyln, USA : Cadwell.
Lancs.: Moss, Farrington, Hodskinson, Moore.
N'folk: Turner.

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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:22 GMT (UK) »

Well that's that theory out of the window, they are already married in 1851 - wonder why the children were given that surname?  I'm suspecting the enumerator made an error in writing Harriott's age here since it doesn't match that given in 1861 and if she is his first wife then 22 wouldn't make sense with the age of the children.

James Stone Head M 32 Agcl Labourer Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Harriott WifeM 22 Lacemaker Buckinghamshire Whaddon
William Son 7 Scholar Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Ellen daur 4 Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Jane daur 6 days Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
HO107; Piece: 1722; Folio: 206; Page: 12
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:24 GMT (UK) »

I have just had a look at the census and it looks as though Sear is the middle name for John and Joseph, the enumerator has ditto'd the surname.

Yes you are right, guess I just jumped on the "Sear" too quick.
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:28 GMT (UK) »

Hi

There is a marriage for James Stone and Harriet Sear
Sep 1842
Winslow
Vol 6 Page 523

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Woodward, (Canals)
Millward, Brierley Hill
Clews, Bishop, Evans Shropshire
Knowles. Cox Cradley Worcestershire
Mobberley. Lye Worcestershire
Hall. Chaddesley Corbett Worcestershire
Smith. Kemerton Gloucestershire
Roberts. Kemerton Gloucestershire
Everiss Gloucestershire
Coleman. Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Taylor. Lye Worcestershire
Hart. Lye Worcestershire
Westwood. Lye Worcestershire
Jenkins. South Wales
Morris/Davies South Wales
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:29 GMT (UK) »

1851 Newton Road Farm, Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire
William Willis Head M 69 Farmer of 221A employing 10 Labourers Buckinghamshire Whaddon
Fanny Wife M 62 Farmer's Wife Buckinghamshire Whaddon
Susanna Stone Visitor 2 Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Robert Waldrick Servant U 15 Outdoors Servant Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Ann Stone Visitor 8 Plaiter Buckinghamshire Drayton Parslow
Sarah Shaw Servant U 19 Dairy Maid Buckinghamshire Whaddon
HO107; Piece: 1722; Folio: 212; Page: 24
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:35 GMT (UK) »


Birth Mar. qtr. 1853

James Stone

Winslow, Vol. 3a, page 432

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N.Yks., D'ham: Gains/Gaines.
N. Yks.: Burrill/Burrell, Clarkson, Terry, Percival, Thackeray, Robinson, Elsworth, Bowe, A'ton, Paylor, Addison, Stelling.
D'ham/Eng. Illinois/Missouri/Rosyln, USA : Cadwell.
Lancs.: Moss, Farrington, Hodskinson, Moore.
N'folk: Turner.

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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:38 GMT (UK) »

In 1841 there are three James Stone's of about the right age living in Drayton Parslow, only one of them living with parents.

One of them is a 20 year old Ag Lab in the same household as Kitty Millburn 50, Mary Kemp 47, both Publicans, and Robert Kemp 20 another Ag lab and Elizabeth Potkin? a 15 year old F.S. all born in county.

Three dwellings away from the above
James Stone 60 Ag Lab
Ann 50
William 15 Ag Lab
Joseph 12
Hannah 10
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Jas Stone 45
Jane 50
James 20 Ag Lab
John 14 Ag Lab
Jane 14
Mary 10
Richard 4
All born in County
HO107/49/8 8/11

The other one -
Elizabeth Trebor 73
Richard Stone 27 Ag Lab
James 21 Ag Lab
All born in County
HO107/49/8 11/17

So you will need that marriage certificate.
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi
1841
H0107/49/8
Living Drayton Parslow
William Willis age 59 Farmer
Fanny Wife age 50
Ann Sear age 88
James Sear age 55
Harriot Sear age 20
James Sear age 15
Edward Jackman age 15
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Woodward, (Canals)
Millward, Brierley Hill
Clews, Bishop, Evans Shropshire
Knowles. Cox Cradley Worcestershire
Mobberley. Lye Worcestershire
Hall. Chaddesley Corbett Worcestershire
Smith. Kemerton Gloucestershire
Roberts. Kemerton Gloucestershire
Everiss Gloucestershire
Coleman. Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Taylor. Lye Worcestershire
Hart. Lye Worcestershire
Westwood. Lye Worcestershire
Jenkins. South Wales
Morris/Davies South Wales
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:49 GMT (UK) »




   A marriage of one set of possible parents.....


           James Stone to Jane Kirk  1817 6 June Drayton Parslow

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Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:50 GMT (UK) »

 Shocked now thats some reading. LOL
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:51 GMT (UK) »

thanks guys, how would i find out who the paretns are of James stone senior....? would i need to order the marriage certificate of James and Hariot?
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi

There is a marriage for James Stone and Harriet Sear
Sep 1842
Winslow
Vol 6 Page 523

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Order online from www.gro.gov.uk - cost of £7
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Re: STONE Help please
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 10 March 07 08:57 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy so that would be about $21 NZD plus postage...lol whats ur postage to NZ ours to UK is $2 in A4 Envelope
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