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Topic: Whileman Clay Cross and Chesterfield (Read 1008 times)
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mrbside
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hey, im realted to Whileman's of clay cross
My grandma is Irene Whileman b.1927
her Father was Samuel Whileman b.1901
he is son of George Whileman b.1858
George Married a Hannah but i dont know her madian name.
They had 6 children to my knowledge:
Elizabeth b.1890
Nellie b.1893
Florrie 1895
George 1897
Samuel abt sept 1901 (not in 1901 census)
Tommy or Thomas abt 1902/3
George's father was also a George born 1815 in either ashby de la zouch in lecistershire or measham derbyshire.
he married a Ann from bagthrope Nottinghamshire.
George and Ann had as far as i know 5 children.
Thomas b.1848
Eliza b.1850
Sarah Ann b.1855
George b.1858
James b.1860
most of which are born in Clay Cross, including my grandma and great grandad.
If you have any more infomation let me know
cheers
Gary
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whileman1987
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Hello,
My name is Gary Whileman. I was born in Danesmoor near Clay Cross in 1957.
My Grandads' name was Thomas. He lived at 58 Pencroft drive or Pencroft lane until his death around 1969 aged about 66. He was a coal miner
He married Lily Froggat.
To my knowlege they had 4 children;
Len
Stanley, my dad. (Born 1930 died 1977) also a coal miner for most of his working life. and lived at 3 Upper Croft Danesmoor. until about 1979.
He Married Edna Cooling. and they had 5 Children; Avis 1955, Gary 1957, Jane 1958, Glyn 1960, and John 1962.
Rita Married a man called Roy and had 2 children; Janet and Joan.
Iris: Married Timothy Allen and had 3 children. Kevin, Stephen and Sandra.
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Vicwinann
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Hello Gary,
We are distantly related by marriage. Most of the Whilemans are connected in some way. My mother's sister, Lily Saunders, marr Wilfred Whileman 1918-1982, son of Frank 1874, son of Thomas 1848, son of George 1815.
Your line comes down from George 1815 to George 1857 (who married twice) and he was my Thomas 1848's brother.
I will send you a PM with my email address.
Regards
Vicwinann
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whileman1987
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What it is, i am kyle whileman , son of gary whileman. i am on a website called facebook you may have heard of it and someone added me called glynn whileman and i thought it was my uncle (my dads brother) and it turns out it isnt . his son rang me who is called lee whileman who is trying to trace his family tree and told me his family is from clay cross,sutton n ashfield and alferton. He also told me that the way our name is spelt is rare of some sort ,and they spell it whyleman or wileman some type of french name if its true or not i dont know. i am staying in touch with lee whileman and trying to help him found out. thanks for letting me know about about our distant relation
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Vicwinann
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Hello,
If your friend is serious about researching his family then believing stories of what people have told him without any proof will lead to sorrow, I am afraid.
There are many Whileman researchers and a very big tree has been put together with lots of branches.
No, the surname is not French as far as I know but there are several variations and mistranscriptions. Whileman, Wileman, Wilman, Wylman, Wyleman, Witman amongst others. It may have been anglesized from the Latin "son of Gwilliam (William)" but that is not proven. Forget spelling when you are researching back. I have found the same surname on on single document spelt in three different ways for the same person.
Before your friend even thinks of looking back that far he needs to prove child to parents, to grandparents, and so on, with certificates, censuses, Wills, and other documents, linking them all together. The adage "Go from what you know back to what you don't" holds true.
Please tell him not to rely on what other people tell him or what he finds on the net without documentary evidence.
Yours
Vicwinann
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wileman 121
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Hi
It has been a while since i posted on this board but i pride myself as been one of the more senior researchers of the Wileman/Wildman family of Measham.
My line igoes back to John Wileman born in Measham in 1815. He had a brother called george Wileman who by the looks of it changed his name to Whileman and he moved to Clay Cross.
He is the father of most of the Whileman family that we know today.
John went on to marry Elizabeth Wildman of Measham in the 1830's and they had several children.
John and George were the son's of Thomas and Ann Wildman / Wileman both of Measham.
During my research which includes many a visit to our National Archives in Kew, Numerous visits to Measham and a couple of visits to the Leicestershire and Derbyshire records office's I have never found any mention of Wileman, Wildman or Whileman been derived from french origin.
Hope this helps and i would love to hear from anyone by personal email
Email address removed to prevent spam and other abuse. Please communicate by using the secure PM system for personal information. Thank you.
p.s i also co run a website of over 2000 names on it dedicated to the Wildman fmaily of Measham with a few pics on also
Jason Wileman
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mrbside
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Whileman1987 is close realtion to me.
I have now more infomation on the Whilemans.
George's wife Hannah's madian name is Walker.
Hannah passed away 25th march 1910 she was only 42. George passed away 23rd feb 1933.
George and Hannah's youngest child, Tommy Whileman was born 1905, he had children Stanley, Leonard, Iris and Rita.
Next youngest was Sam, who is my great grandad born 1901 he had children Irene and George, George passed away in 1997 but Irene (My Grandma) is still living.
I have recently got hold of a photo of George, father of Sam and Tommy from Sandra grandaughter of Tommy.
if anyone whould like more info post you email address and i will contact you.
Cheers
Gary
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garywhileman
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Hi, Im new to this site, my name is Gary Whileman from Clay Cross born in 1982. My father and grandfather are called George and great grandfather was George, not sure after that.
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