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janan
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Re: (Still looking) Noon 1841/ Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #45 on: Friday 27 May 05 20:20 UTC (UK) »
Still looking so am pushing this back up the board.  Wink Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: (Still looking) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 17 July 05 15:14 UTC (UK) »
I've found Hannah in 1841  Grin Grin but still looking for her mother Ann Griffin in 1851 ( see beginning of thread for details.
Jan  Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Still looking) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #47 on: Monday 18 July 05 01:33 UTC (UK) »
---Bowling Gr Ln---[Wirksworth]-1841-----------
    Silvanus       GRIFFIN        75    Shoe m
    Joseph         GRIFFIN        30    Shoe m
     Ann            GRIFFIN        35 
     William        GRIFFIN        1   
John           KEY            9
      Joseph         KEY            6 
=========================================
==================1851 upper biggin
    Sarah Ann      GRIFFIN        Servant   U  21  F   House maid          Margaret NTT
=================================
#056---Dale---[Wirksworth]---
W208a     Sarah          WILSON         Head      W  65  F                       Ashleyhay
    George         WILSON         Son       U  26  M   Shoemaker j'man     Wirksworth

    Emma           WILSON         Dau       U  21     Tape factory hand   Wirksworth
     Joseph         GRIFFIN        Lodger    W  60  M   Shoemaker j'man     Wirksworth
   Edward         MATHER         Lodger    Nk nk  M   Shoemaker j'man     Wirksworth
=====================================
1851 greenhill wirksworth
    William        GRIFFIN        Appr         11  M   Chimney sweepers Ap Wirksworth
====================================
 Wirksworth
    Sarah          GRIFFIN        Head      U  79  F   Annuitant           Wirksworth
     Ellen          GRIFFIN                  U  65  F   Sempstress          Wirksworth

======================== 

Joseph Griffin MARRIED Ann Merlin  1820 Church Broughton 

could only find this derbyshire
HuhHuhHuhHuh?
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wirksworth 1861 census
W387a    Joseph       GRIFFIN      Head    M 49  M  Shoe maker            Wirksworth
W387b    Ann          GRIFFIN      Wife    M 48  F                        Wirksworth
==============================
======================================
Wirksworth]
W295a    George       TAYLOR       Head    M 31  M  Chimney sweep         Wirksworth
W295b    Sarah        TAYLOR       Wife    M 30  F                        Wirksworth
W295c    Mary         TAYLOR       Dau       9   F  Scholar               Wirksworth
W295d    Ann          TAYLOR       Sister  U 18  F  Tape weaver           Wirksworth
W295e    William      GRIFFIN      -       U 19  M  Journeyman sweep      Wirksworth
W295f    George       PEARSON      -         14  M  Sweep's (assistant)   Wirksworth
=================================
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Wirksworth 1871
GRIFFEN Ann 50
  GRIFFIN Ellen 30
   GRIFFIN William 28
===========================
1881 w w
    William       GRIFFIN      Head    M 38  M  Chimney sweep         Wirksworth
    Ellen         GRIFFIN      Wife    M 40                          Wirksworth
     Hannah Elizb  GRIFFIN      Dau       7   F  Scholar               Wirksworth
=======================
Warmbrook, CockpitWirksworth
   Ann           GRIFFIN      Head    W 68  F  Charwoman             Wirksworth
==============================
1891
The Bank, 10-2 roomsBonsall
   James         GRIFFIN      Head    M 33  M  Labourer general      Winster
   Hannah        GRIFFIN      Wife    M 24                          Bonsall
   Ann Ethel     GRIFFIN      Dau       6m                          Bonsall
=============================
3 roomsWirksworth
     Ellen         GRIFFIN      Head    W 50  F  Tapemillhand Lapper   Wirksworth
     Hannah        GRIFFIN      Dau     S 19  F  Tapemillhand Lapper   Wirksworth
==============================
=======================

1901

1901
--Bankside 3 roomsBonsall
    Ann           HOLMES       Head    W 64  F  Living on own means   Bonsall
   Hannah        GRIFFIN      Dau     M 34                         Bonsall
  Ann Ethel     GRIFFIN      Gdau      10                         Bonsall
   Annie M       GRIFFIN      Gdau      7                         Crich
  Dennis        GRIFFIN      Gson      4   M                        Crich
   Hannah        GRIFFIN      Gdau      3                        Bonsall
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        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: Closed Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #48 on: Monday 18 July 05 11:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi Sylvia,
Yes you have the right ones. I did have them thanks  Cheesy,  just can't find where they're hiding in 1851 Huh Huh Another puzzle is who on earth is the Joseph Griffin 60 W shoemaker in 1851 - Ann is still around in 1861 so it can't be her Joseph with wrong age, unless the  W is a mistake  Huh Undecided Still doesn't explain where Ann is. I have their marriage in Wirksworth in 1839 thanks.
Best wishes
Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Still looking) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #49 on: Monday 18 July 05 11:57 UTC (UK) »
ah well we wins some we loses some
sylvia
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                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: (Still looking) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 19 July 05 16:41 UTC (UK) »
Sylvia you are a star once more  Grin Grin. By presenting  me with info I already had you made me look at it again. Of couse Joseph Griffin 60 (I imagine though haven't been able to check that that should be 40, an attrociously written 4 could easily look like a 6) W Shoemaker in 1851 is the right one.
I now have this:
B 1844oct14 GRIFFIN Ann(Wirksworth)[39]   Grin Grin Grin
The age fits with her age in 1841 and gives me a birth year  of 1805. It also explains why she suddenly becomes younger than Joseph in 1861 - he must have remarried another Ann, though haven't found the marriage yet.
So thread finally closed. Never thought that would happen.
Thanks again  Grin Grin Grin Grin
Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #51 on: Friday 05 May 06 14:25 UTC (UK) »
Just a quick update
A search of this site
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Turned up an 1826 and Jan 1827 Bastardy Papers for Ann Noon and Joseph Frost - so now have a father for my Hannah Grin Awaiting a copy of the papers.
Weirdly Ann is living nextdoor to a Joseph Frost in Wirksworth 1841 - could it possibly be the one Shocked Huh

Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 06 May 06 10:46 UTC (UK) »
he was a handy next door neighbour

there is light at the end of the tunnel

sylvia

1841 census wirksworth
joseph griffin born 1811
ann            "    1806
silvanns     "    1766
william         "   1840

sylvia
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      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 06 May 06 11:48 UTC (UK) »
Hi Sylvia
I find the whole thing strange. Ann Noon had two illegitmate children a Samuel in 1825 then my Hannah in 1827 father Joseph Frost. She then married a William Key/Kay and appears to have two sons with him (with her in 41) John and Joseph - not a family name so named after her former lover Huh . William dies and she marries Joseph Griffin but names her son William. Then in 41 there she is living nextdoor to Joseph Frost Shocked

And the name Joseph Frost is so familiar to me I'm sure he's turned up somewhere else before Huh

Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 06 May 06 14:33 UTC (UK) »
just for interest
joseph griffin    father
"               "        son
married
hannah knowles 17 dec 1855
sylvia
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       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 06 May 06 14:38 UTC (UK) »

Where was that marriage Sylvia?
Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 07 May 06 10:21 UTC (UK) »
lds family search /  married 17 dec 1855 saint alkmund derby bride and groom both 21

also confirmed  on ancestry.com


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       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 07 May 06 12:04 UTC (UK) »
Hmmm could be the lost Joseph Key then changed his name to his stepfathers - will pursue that. Thanks for flagging it up Sylvia
Best wishes Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
maidmarianoops
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 07 May 06 12:58 UTC (UK) »
1851 census
ann key 1803 head   stawley derbyshire[should be stavely]
charles key 1835 son
george key 1831    "
joseph key 1837     "
samuel key   1844   "

sylvia
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      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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janan
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Re: (Closed) Griffin 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 07 May 06 14:24 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Sylvia

Just found Joseph Key in Belper Workhouse in 1851

Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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