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Topic: Looking for a 1945 birth cert Dundee (Read 1383 times)
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justmej
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Hi
Can anyone help by giving me an address or telephone no. to where I would apply for my late half-brother's birth certificate? He was born in Dundee in 1945 and I am unsure if it is possible to search and order on-line, although I do know his exact date of birth.
Thank you.
Justmej
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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MonicaLesl
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Have a look at this link here on RootsChat, in particular Falkyrn's response, with details of how to order the birth cert. on line.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,193879.0.html
Regards.
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Betty Boo
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Hi Justmej,
You can order by contacting Scotlandspeople on their website or directly from Dundee!!
Registration of Births, Marriages and deaths.
Dundee Registry Office,
89 Commercial Street,
Dundee
DD1 2AF
Tel:- 01382 435 222
You can either contact them by phone to order any certificate, have your credit card ready, they will post it to you direct within a few days.
Elizabeth
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justmej
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Thank you Monica & Elizabeth for your very prompt response and help with the information requested regarding a birth cert for Dundee in 1945. Very much appreciated.
justmej
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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justmej
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Have just received the birth certificate of my late half-brother, which I have been meaning to get for such a long time now and without the kind help on here would probably still be without it, so thank you again.
It now poses another question for me, which I am hopeful someone can answer. Morgan Street, Dundee - does it still exist???
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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Betty Boo
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Hi again justmej
Yes Morgan Street it is still there in Dundee, may look a bit different from the earlier days but yes it is.
Elizabeth
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MonicaLesl
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This is the refs. for it on Multimap:
www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=56.4718&lon=-2.9553&scale=5000&icon=x
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Betty Boo
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So justmej,
Did you order the birth certificate from the Dundee registry office??
And were the parents who you thought they would be? and did the live in Morgan Street Dundee then?
Elizabeth
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justmej
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Thank you Monica for the link, will have a look at that.
Elizabeth, yes I did order from the Dundee Registry Office by telephone on Monday and cert arrived Wednesday, so delighted with the efficient service.
Morgan Street is where he lived for a short while, which I believe was the family home of his grandparents and the address is on the cert. I had most of the information before I ordered the cert, supplied to me by my mother, who at 80 still has an amazing memory. I should never have doubted her or the info given to me, as everything was correct right down to the house number!!! Of course it had the added bonus of giving me his mother's full name (including middle name) and of course the date of their marriage, which hopefully will help me find a little more info on his Scottish family. Is it usual to show the time of birth too?
His mum died of TB not long after the birth and he came to England with his father. Unfortunately, the baby had also contracted TB and was hospitalized where my mother was a nurse. Eventually they married, although they would visit his grandparents and Aunt in Dundee, I am told.
Tragically, his life was cut short at the age of 26, when both he and his girlfriend died following a road accident.
Regards justmej
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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MonicaLesl
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Sad course of events - but happy that you found the details you were looking for. Scottish certs. overall are quite amazing aren't they in terms of the detail. Hour of birth (and death) is always shown on certificates amongs the many other useful bits of info.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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justmej
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As he had two middle names and one was the unusual name of 'Knight', do you know if it was common practice to use possibly the grandmother's maiden name for a child? It was not his mother's maiden name. Have not come across this name before, in any of my father's family, so think it must be associated with his mother. Guess I will have to get the marriage certificate, now I have a date for it and see if that will give me further clues.
Regards justmej
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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MonicaLesl
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It was quite common to use important family surnames as middle names so hopefully you will find a connection there. Bear in mind though that sometimes surnames were used that may not necessarily relate to the immediate family (doctor, priest etc).
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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trish251
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Hello Justmej
My Scottish families often used the grandmother's maiden name as a second given name - but I should add, my husband's grandfather (English father, Scottish mother) had the name of the doctor who delivered him as his 2nd given name.
Trish
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Betty Boo
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Hi again justmej,
I thought you would be quicker if you ordered the certificate from Dundee, they always have a very good service and as you had the exact date there would be no delay.
As I am still in Dundee I am online at a different time from you so my messages will be later than yours. Morgan Street is a very well know street in Dundee and if they lived there the houses were quite modern, in fact they are maybe still there today. A lot of the old houses in the centre of Dundee were demolished and new houses replaced those, Morgan Street is still about the same.
At the top of Morgan Street stands Morgan High School, a fire damaged the School several years ago and as its hundreds of years old, they managed to rebuild the front to the original state.
I don't have a picture of Morgan Street but I do have a picture of Morgan High School, its a very old picture but if you would like to see it then I can try and post it for you or you can send me a PM with your e-mail address and I could send it to you.
Elizabeth
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justmej
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Thank you all for the suggestions re middle names. Will bear this in mind. Will have to try and go back a bit further to see if it was a family name or possibly the doctor/priest's name.
What family information am I likely to get from the Scottish marriage cert, anything more than the English version? Will it only give me the father's names for bride and groom?
Elizabeth, have sent you a PM regarding the photo.
Regards
justmej
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Cowing, Kilgour, Forster, Hudspith, Oliver, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle, Robinson, Stark - Belford, Cowpen Blyth, Cramlington, Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Oliver, Stark - Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses, Gateshead, Durham
Douglas, Laurence, Moffat, Pringle, McQueen - Blackford, Ashkirk, Scotland
Hall, Harding, Maugham(n), McQueen - Gibside, Whickham, Durham
Smith, Young - Sunderland, Durham
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