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PaulineJ
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Not possible; all you can do is order a certificate with the proviso that the mother is Maria Jones.
Local GRO offices are usually the more co-operative (cheaper) for this.
Pauline
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
This may help narrow it down, I found this marriage,
John BROOKES Jun Q 1858 Barnstaple v.5b p.861
there is a Maria JONES with the same reference 
Regards
Daisy
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debbi2k
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Do you think that the child was born in Martinhoe?
If so I could look for a baptism in Martinhoe when I next go to the Record Office(although this will not be til May)
Kind Regards
Debbi
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Emery,Willis,Cawsey,Gibbings,Stevens and Newcombe;Devon
Monk,Griffths,Kingdon ; Gloucs,Oxfordshire and Bristol
Janes;Woolwich,Charlton
Sculpher;Norfolk,Bermondsey
Grubb:Wiltshire
Morgan and Davis;Eglwysilan,Glam
Kingdon,Saunders,Greedy,Tarr;Somerset
Poore;Berkshire
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debbi2k
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Good news Delyth.
I checked the parish register for Martinhoe yesterday and found you the following
02/05/1858 Elizabeth dau of Maria Jones,afterwards known as Brooks,servant, of Mill Town,Martinhoe.
I then checked on a few years and found this which I thought you might like
18/04/1862 William John,son of John,a labourer and Maria Brooks of Woody Bay.
So I guess that Maria and John married after Elizabeths birth and the vicar went back to the baptismal entry and added the 'afterwards known as' bit to make Elizabeth a Brooks instead of a Jones.
I hope you are as pleased as I was to get the info.
Debbi
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Emery,Willis,Cawsey,Gibbings,Stevens and Newcombe;Devon
Monk,Griffths,Kingdon ; Gloucs,Oxfordshire and Bristol
Janes;Woolwich,Charlton
Sculpher;Norfolk,Bermondsey
Grubb:Wiltshire
Morgan and Davis;Eglwysilan,Glam
Kingdon,Saunders,Greedy,Tarr;Somerset
Poore;Berkshire
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aderyndu
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Hi Debbie,
That is brilliant 
But it does lead to another puzzler.... 
The situation is this - I couldnt find the birth of an Elizabeth Brooks and had suspected she'd been born out of wedlock in Martinhoe. Debbie's brilliant detective work found the entry for her in Martinhoe, born as Elizabeth Jones, daughter of Maria Jones on 2nd May 1858, with a kindly parish priest going back and later adding onto the parish record that the child was later known as Brooks.
However I've got a copy of a marriage certificate from the GRO of the wedding of Maria Jones and John Brooks dated 1st May 1858, the day before the baby was born!! taking place again in Martinhoe.  Do you think the kindly parish priest put an earlier date on the marriage certificate to the day before the baby was born!!
This lady has caused me so many headaches.... 
So Debbie, regarding the pm you sent me, yes I think I would appreciate you looking at marriage details next time you are in the Records Office!!
Thanx,
Delyth 
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Jenkins, Morgan(s), Jones, Williams, Evans - Pontardawe
Williams - Bettws, Carms
Jones, Parker - Neath
Brooks - Neath & North Devon
Southwood - North Devon
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debbi2k
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1958 Delyth??
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Emery,Willis,Cawsey,Gibbings,Stevens and Newcombe;Devon
Monk,Griffths,Kingdon ; Gloucs,Oxfordshire and Bristol
Janes;Woolwich,Charlton
Sculpher;Norfolk,Bermondsey
Grubb:Wiltshire
Morgan and Davis;Eglwysilan,Glam
Kingdon,Saunders,Greedy,Tarr;Somerset
Poore;Berkshire
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lizdb
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Now if you go back to your original findings from the GRO index, you can rule out the two from the Sept quarter.
Looks like your one is the one born March quarter. Unless of course she was born end of 1857 - that would still make her 3 in 1861 if the census was before her birthday. Would be worth a lookin 1857 for Elizabeth Jones's born in Barnstaple.
But if there are no other contenders - then you have found her birth!
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I was hoping that perhaps some info would have been available from parish records.
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