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johnP-bedford
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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 May 07 22:59 BST (UK) »

Hello Lisa, I was hoping to draw you into this. Is there a recorded baptism at Souldrop for William 1740 ? What confused me, was that on your GR tree you have William b 1719. I have Souldrop PRs if you want anything checking.

Got to go, there's a plane to catch in the morning. Keep watching this space.

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 July 07 19:45 BST (UK) »

Hi John,
I have been going back over the details of Elizabeth and William with another relative and we too are also confused.
what i know for sure from the bedford records is that Thomas Hadland baptised 1773 had parents William Headland and Elizabeth Evans and a sister Dorothy 1776. William was a widower when he married Elizabeth Evans (his first wife was also Elizabeth and they had children John, William and Simon.....is this your Elizabeth Allen, who was his first wife?,She died about 1771).

What We can't find is a record of the the marriage to the first Elizabeth or Williams Baptism.

Via One World Tree i found the information that said that this William's parent were Thomas Hadland and Dorothy Johnson However!

My relative bought the parish records books and she has the information of Thomas Hadland and Dorothy Johnson as having

William 1719 died 1720
Mary 1722
Thomas 1724
Elizabeth 1726
Thomas 1729
Martha 1730
Sarah 1733

But there is no 2nd william born around 1730. However i have found a William born 13 oct 1729 Carlton, Bedfordshire to a Joseph Hadland and Elizabeth. Is this him?

Although The details I have for William have him with a daughter Dorothy (sister to Thomas : Above) is this a family name carried on?

have you got any closer to finding William's parents yet?

Hope this all makes sense?
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Lisa


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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 August 07 23:10 BST (UK) »

Thomas HEADLAND, labourer, was Souldrop parish clerk in 1803...Simon HEADLAND is also listed on Defence Muster at Souldrop...so they were under 55 at least.

There is an interesting William HEADLAND entry on the Bedford Gaol page too Grin

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #18 on: Friday 03 August 07 23:38 BST (UK) »

Hello Lisa, I have seen your posting/query. I am in Canada at the moment so I will check your information when I get back on the 13th. Regards John


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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 18:42 BST (UK) »

Hello Lisa, Been reviewing your information. I also have the Souldrop parish records. Note there was a period (1796-1800) when Souldrop church was in 'so ruinous a condition' that people had baptisms/marriages in Knotting church.

I believe the Elizabeth Headland, b 1726 daughter of Thomas Headland & Dorothy Johnson, so be first wife of my gt-gt-gt-gt-granfather Mark Partridge, married in Sharnbrook 4/2/1746 & buried 1751 possibly. My line comes from his 2nd wife Elizabeth White he married in 1756.

William Headland (whose 2nd wife was Elizabeth Evans) married first Elizabeth Allen. There is an Odell marriage on 29/3/1752 of William HADLEN to Eliz Allen, & that ties in with their children John 1755, William 1759 & Simon 1768. She died in 1771.

The Simon first married Alice Abbott, & then Sarah Bromley, they had a set of children including Thomas b 1814 who married into the Whittall family, where other members marry into my Partridge family.

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 August 07 14:00 BST (UK) »

Lisa, Just reviewing info from Headland family trees I have access to on Genes reUnited. Someone has recorded that William Headland b 1768 Souldrop who married Elizabeth Allen at Odell on 29/03/1752. William's parents are down as John Headland b 1694 Sharnbrook & Douglass Little 1692 Stevington, who married 30/11/1725 Sharnbrook. John died 1730.

I am not sure if it is right. I have been caught out before assuming these people's trees were correct.

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 21:23 BST (UK) »

Hi there, sorry it's been a while. I have just caught up on your last posts. So are we saying that William who married the two Elizabeths. His parents were Thomas and Dorothy? Also don't suppose you can find Either John Thomas Headland born 1844 or Mary Ann Bailey/ Headland 1847 in the 1861 census.Both of bedfordshire. I can't find them anywhere. They married around that time
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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 22:20 BST (UK) »

Hello lisa.............been a while since we spoke.
Have you any more info on the Elizabeth Smith you mentioned at the start of this thread ? Just wondering if there was a possible link to any of my Smiths in the Knotting area.


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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 22:45 BST (UK) »

1861 census, High St Harrold Beds

RG9/987 Folio: 21 Page: 9

Mary Ann Bailey, Niece, age 13, born Harroild ; lace maker
George Thew, head, age 32, unmarried, born Harrold ; Shoemaker
Charles Thew, brother, age 21, unmarried, born Harrold ; Shoemaker

Thomas Headland married Mary Ann Bailey, Bedford RD vol 3b page 705 in Dec 1870


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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 23:20 BST (UK) »

Thanks that's great. I don't know what i do to miss things. I check on my family tree maker and by Ancestry.com! I always seem to miss one census. Must be my eyes.
I think i have some names connected to Whittal. I will check my files an let you know. Have we agreed on the Headland link?
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Lisa


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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 07:33 BST (UK) »

Lisa,

There is a John Headland b 1841 Souldrop who is son of Thomas Headland & Leannah Whittall, who married in Sharnbrook on 6/11/1835. They are in my tree. This John married Eliza Holt, & in 1871 were living in Heywood, Lancashire. Lehannah's sister Sarah married John Partridge of Oakley.

& I also have the John Thomas Headland 1845 Odell who married Mary Bailey. I have it that he is son on Ann Headland chr 1800 Souldrop, I do not have the father's name. Ann is another sister of Sarah & Lehannah. These are all children of Simon Headland & Sarah Bromley who married 26/09/1792 ar Riseley.

Thomas & Mary had children, Charles 1872 , Minnie 1875, Charlotte 1877 & Thomas 1879

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 14:22 BST (UK) »

Thnaks for that, John Thomas was actually the son of Mary Headland, Sister to William and John Headland. His father is not named but she was to marry A John PArish Perkins that same year he was born.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 18:58 BST (UK) »

Lisa, Yes I need to review this, I was quickly looking through my tree this morning & saw I have recorded a Mare Ann Bailey married to John Thomas Headland, with his mother being Ann. Then I was reading though some notes, probably taken from your tree, that his mother was Mary & banns had been read in March 1844 for her marriage to John Parish Perkins.

I am going to see where the information of his mother being Ann, came from.

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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 23 March 08 18:05 GMT (UK) »

Quote from: johnP-bedford on Friday 17 August 07 14:00 BST (UK)

William Headland b 1768 Souldrop who married Elizabeth Allen at Odell on 29/03/1752. William's parents are down as John Headland b 1694 Sharnbrook & Douglass Little 1692 Stevington, who married 30/11/1725 Sharnbrook. John died 1730.

I am not sure if it is right. I have been caught out before assuming these people's trees were correct.

Hi John in regards to this quite posted a while ago, this is wrong, William's age is wrong the lastest he was born was around 1729. Take a look they have him born 1768 and married 16 years earlier in 1752
still looking for the William Headland baptism. The one who died in 1720 isn't on igi so may be false information and This is the William all along.
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Re: Elizabeth HEADLAND's family - Sharnbrook/Souldrop
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 23 March 08 19:15 GMT (UK) »

Lisa, I agree the year of William's birth is incorrect, & I now have him born circa 1730, but I do not know who his parents are. The Odell marriage is true, however he is recorded with the name Hadlen, & the PR states both William & Elizabeth came from Souldrop.

..... Regards John

by the way I had a letter recently from a Jean Williams of Loughborough via a member interests entry in the Beds FHS journal, her maiden name was Headland & her line is from the Thomas H & Dorothy Johnson family. Do you know of her ?


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