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Topic: 1841/1851 WAKELING in Bucknell? (Read 662 times)
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alhambra
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Hi
It's Fred and Ellen's marriage certificate.I'm even further away as I now live in Cornwall and can't see a trip to Oxford in the near future.
Just have to keep searching. Which Wakeling are you descended from?
Alhambra
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Hi,
I'm from their first child, Catherine (b 1859). She had a daughter (Ellen) with a Mr Viney (not found a marriage). Catherine then married Frederick Vicary when Ellen was about 2. I'm descended from Ellen's first child.
Ellen had 10 children; including a Catherine and a Frederick..........another one who never got round to marrying  They like to make life tricky for us don't they!
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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alhambra
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Sure do - I think I've done enough for tonight. Thanks for your help.
Alhambra
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Selby
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Hello 
I'm also looking for Frederick Wakeling, the same man you're looking for (I'm decended from Thomas Wakeling, his son)...
What confuses me, apart from not being able to find him in 1851, is that I can't find him, Ellen or Catherine (who was born in 1859(?)) on the 1861 census!!! 
I've looked in Suffolk, Oxford and London... where were they hiding! lol
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Hi,
Catherine Wakeling was born 30/8/1859 in St. Pancras; I have the cert. The other children shown on 1871 census also have St. Pancras as birthplace.
Do you have a birth cert for Thomas that confirms his birthplace as St. Pancras area?
The family seems to stay in the north west area of London.
Hoping to be able to get to Oxford to search parish registers in a couple of months.
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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alhambra
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I'm having the same problems re 1851 and 1861 but I'll keep looking and let you know if I have any luck.
Alhambra
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Selby
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Hi Nanny Jan...
I was having a look on the BMD site and found this marriage entry for a 'Susannah Wakeling' (for March 1839)
BAYLIS Mary Letitia Oxford
DERRICK Thomas Oxford
EMPSON Jane Oxford
JULIAN Elizabeth Oxford
LAST William Cooper Oxford
PENNINGTON John Oxford
WAKELIN John Oxford
WAKELIN Susannah Oxford
I've searched each of the men but can't find any of them married to a Susannah... I shall have another look tomorrow - wouldn't it be nice if this was 'our' Susannah lol (I bet it's not though:-\ )
Selby
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Hi Selby,
Well there's 4 couples in that list so she must have married one of them! Perhaps there was an early, pre-1841 census death?
Busy morning here but hope for time later to have a longer search.
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Updating.
A quick visit to the Oxford Record Centre failed to find any more clues regarding Frederick's early years. I was unable to find a Bastardy Bond nor could I find any more clues from the Bucknell Parish Register as to the fate of his mother, Susannah.
The search goes on............
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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