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Topic: looking for MAGGIE GRANT, Bridge of Brown (Read 2101 times)
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prophetess
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I passed through the Bridge of Brown some years ago, I only remember the one house/ tea-room,
http://www.highland-holidays-scotland.co.uk/brown.php
looked on 1901 census but not found anything so far , but if i do will let you know
prop
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FLETT, CLOUSTON, WHISHART, SCOTT, BRUCE,
ABERDEEN AREA:THOMSON, ROSIE, CHAFFEY, ALLAN,
GLASGOW;STEWART, SPENCE, DOUGLAS, BLACK , KEAYS(KEYS), MITCHELL, JOHNSTON, FLETT, ALLAN, CALLAGHAN, JENKS,FINLAY,SMELLIE,TYSON
MORAYSHIRE: ALLAN, INNES, MCPHAIL, MATHEWS, STEWART, MCKENZIE, MCLEAN, PLOWMAN, MASSON,
IRELAND:DOUGLAS,BLACK,McAULAY,KEAYS,TWEED,MITCHELL,
ENGLAND: JENKS, WALKER,BALDWIN, HURST,PHILLIPS, CHAFFEY, ROBERTSON, ALLAN;JOHNSON, AMEY,Corston,Race
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JustJean
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Posts: 493
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Ok folks.....I need the assistance of some local knowledge 
Looking at the link posted above I see this for an address:
Tea Room and Craft Shop, Bridge of Brown, Tomintoul
Ballindalloch, Banffshire
and then looking in my gazetteer I find:
Bridge of Avon - 1 1/2 miles SE of Ballindalloch, Banffshire and there is a Post office there.
So is the Bridge of Brown and the Bridge of Avon the same bridge? My gazetteer doesn't have a listing for Bridge of Brown.......
And the reason why I ask?
There is a DC on SP for a Margaret GRANT in 1946. Her home was at Bridge of Avon, Kirkmichael. She was single, age 69, and the postmistress. Informant was a brother.
What are the odds?
Here's hoping
Jean
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Jean
There was also a duplicate post on the Banff board...you and I are, I think, going the same way 
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,221525.0.html
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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JustJean
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Monica
Thanks for that! It's got to be a possibility then! Guess I need to read the whole board a little more frequently
Best wishes
Jean
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prophetess
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Hi I have Also Just checked my Gazeteer of Scotland ( pubished in 1937) it an old one but quiet useful there is no Bridge of Brown listed , However the Bridge of Avon is,
Another old book I have on Scotland However dose mention the Bridge of Brown
(The Bridge of Brown Is in a most romantic spot, where the waterflows through a rocky channel some 2ft wide at the surface of the stream, and 8 or 10 ft wide at the upper surface of the rocks some 40 ft above the wate.
this part of the stream is known as the Linn of Brown. the road then climbs up over the hills to the east and crosses the Avon bye the bridge of Avon and there joins the road, via Strath Avon From Ballindalloch)
this book is another old one but i cannot find a date on it but suspect it may not be as old as the first.
I also have a mention of it in Ward Lock's Red Guide To Scotland, but in this book ( published 1970) it it listed as the Bridge of Broun, but apart form the first line of the fist and earlier book it gives little else,. the only one of the 3 books that mention the bridge of avon is the gazeteer, the other giude book have no mention at all of it.
Hope this is of some help to you
Sybil
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ORKNEY
FLETT, CLOUSTON, WHISHART, SCOTT, BRUCE,
ABERDEEN AREA:THOMSON, ROSIE, CHAFFEY, ALLAN,
GLASGOW;STEWART, SPENCE, DOUGLAS, BLACK , KEAYS(KEYS), MITCHELL, JOHNSTON, FLETT, ALLAN, CALLAGHAN, JENKS,FINLAY,SMELLIE,TYSON
MORAYSHIRE: ALLAN, INNES, MCPHAIL, MATHEWS, STEWART, MCKENZIE, MCLEAN, PLOWMAN, MASSON,
IRELAND:DOUGLAS,BLACK,McAULAY,KEAYS,TWEED,MITCHELL,
ENGLAND: JENKS, WALKER,BALDWIN, HURST,PHILLIPS, CHAFFEY, ROBERTSON, ALLAN;JOHNSON, AMEY,Corston,Race
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MonicaLesl
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 Sybil, after your last post with all the detail, I had one last go on Ancestry's new index for 1901 searching for a Grant/surname and address Bridge of Brown....I'm quite taken back (putting it mildly!) by what came up on the search result:
Maggie Grant 45, formerly domestic nurse, b. Inverness-Shire, Abernethy
Peter Fowler 23, nephew, Grocer Shopkeeper, b. Edinburh
Mary Christie 10, boarder, b. Glasgow
John Hannah 9, boarder, b. Glasgow
Robert Simpson 8, boarder, b. Glasgow
Archibald Smith 9, boarder, b. Glasgow
Address: Bridge Of Brown Cottage, Abernethy and Kincardine, Inverness-shire
She could be THE Maggie. We have the young boarders, from Glasgow....how it all fits in I do not know....
I know that in 1901 this Maggie is not in Tomintoul - but there are too many strong markers on this one.
Jackson, I'd be curious to know how the Tomintoul reference came in with the MacDonald children from Glasgow.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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prophetess
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Glad it helped your most welcome
Sybil
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ORKNEY
FLETT, CLOUSTON, WHISHART, SCOTT, BRUCE,
ABERDEEN AREA:THOMSON, ROSIE, CHAFFEY, ALLAN,
GLASGOW;STEWART, SPENCE, DOUGLAS, BLACK , KEAYS(KEYS), MITCHELL, JOHNSTON, FLETT, ALLAN, CALLAGHAN, JENKS,FINLAY,SMELLIE,TYSON
MORAYSHIRE: ALLAN, INNES, MCPHAIL, MATHEWS, STEWART, MCKENZIE, MCLEAN, PLOWMAN, MASSON,
IRELAND:DOUGLAS,BLACK,McAULAY,KEAYS,TWEED,MITCHELL,
ENGLAND: JENKS, WALKER,BALDWIN, HURST,PHILLIPS, CHAFFEY, ROBERTSON, ALLAN;JOHNSON, AMEY,Corston,Race
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MonicaLesl
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Found Maggie's death (thanks to the Sunday Mail contribution on SP units!) - I'll PM you.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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prophetess
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Well Done Monica.
Just had some Brill info from the boards on some of my side lines, feels fantastic when someone finds something good for you but feel just as good when you help someone and find what they are looking for
Sybil
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ORKNEY
FLETT, CLOUSTON, WHISHART, SCOTT, BRUCE,
ABERDEEN AREA:THOMSON, ROSIE, CHAFFEY, ALLAN,
GLASGOW;STEWART, SPENCE, DOUGLAS, BLACK , KEAYS(KEYS), MITCHELL, JOHNSTON, FLETT, ALLAN, CALLAGHAN, JENKS,FINLAY,SMELLIE,TYSON
MORAYSHIRE: ALLAN, INNES, MCPHAIL, MATHEWS, STEWART, MCKENZIE, MCLEAN, PLOWMAN, MASSON,
IRELAND:DOUGLAS,BLACK,McAULAY,KEAYS,TWEED,MITCHELL,
ENGLAND: JENKS, WALKER,BALDWIN, HURST,PHILLIPS, CHAFFEY, ROBERTSON, ALLAN;JOHNSON, AMEY,Corston,Race
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Forfarian
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So is the Bridge of Brown and the Bridge of Avon the same bridge?
No, they are two different bridges.
Bridge of Avon is on the A95 at Ballindalloch, National Grid reference NJ183357; Bridge of Brown is on the A939 between Grantown-on-Spey and Tomintoul, National Grid reference NJ124205.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1835 has a couple of photos of Bridge of Avon, and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1220 shows Bridge of Brown.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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JustJean
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So is the Bridge of Brown and the Bridge of Avon the same bridge? No, they are two different bridges. Bridge of Avon is on the A95 at Ballindalloch, National Grid reference NJ183357; Bridge of Brown is on the A939 between Grantown-on-Spey and Tomintoul, National Grid reference NJ124205. http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1835 has a couple of photos of Bridge of Avon, and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1220 shows Bridge of Brown.
Wow Falkryn.....awesome photies.....thanks for the geography lesson!!! I always forget about that website but got it clearly "favoritized" now!!
Best wishes
Jean
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Forfarian
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I notice that one or two people have spoken about looking in a gazetteer and not finding places they are interested in. In other threads people report failing to find places in road atlases.
Can I suggest that you are far more likely to find small places like individual farms on sites with gazetteers linked to detailed maps, which should be the first port of call when looking for a place.
These sites include the Ordnance Survey Get-a-Map http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/
and www.streetmap.co.uk and http://uk8.multimap.com/map/places.cgi
All of these will locate both Bridge of Avon and Bridge of Brown.
Being contemporary maps, they don't work for places no longer in existence, but if you know which parish the place was in, you can often find it in http://www.old-maps.co.uk/. However there isn't a complete gazetteer of all names recorded on these maps, so a search may involve a lot of scrolling.
If you are in luck, someone may have located and photographed a derelict place, or the site of a vanished one, and submitted the photo to www.geograph.org.uk, so that's always worth a try.
If all these methods fail, there are other means, but they'd take too long to describe here. Best just to ask.
Oh, and remember that spelling is not fixed, and place names may be a little different now and in historical records. For example, I've seen Cooperhill/Couperhill/Cowperhill, all versions either with or without an 's' on the end, referring to the same place near Forres.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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JustJean
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 Just realized I addressed my last post to the wrong poster ....Forfarian I"m so sorry!
Thanks again!!
Best wishes
Jean
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