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Topic: Marriage & Death look up: Younie (Read 2504 times)
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minnie222
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How confusing is that?
Located a few of them on the Libindix. There's lots of Younie's in the Moray area all born about the same time all having the name James, Alexander, Margaret, Ann, Jessie, John etc etc.
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Hibberd: Sheffield, Dronfield, Yorkshire; Barry: England, Echuca Victoria Australia; Reid: Dumbarton to Tasmania; Parkin: Leeds to Tasmania: Younie: Moray,Scotland to Tasmania:Horsham: England to Tasmania
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MonicaLesl
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Barb
Death certs would normally show whether he was a 'widower/widow of...' or 'married to...'
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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minnie222
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Duh good thinking  . I have a copy of his death certificate.
It says married to:- 1. Jane Stewart 2. Helen Shearer. He died on 23/11/1909 at "The cottage, Woodlands in the Parish of New Spynie" (Could it have been a nursing home or did they have them then?). Senile decay. (No mention of issue, widowhood or such like)
Signature of informant is his son John Younie, Fochabers. A bit missing on edge but looks like November 24 at New Spynie signed by the same Registrar as on the main part of the form. Is this his funeral?
I guess then this means Helen has gone before him?
Sometimes I chase my tail. Where would be records be for his grave?
I dont know where wife No 1 (gt gt grandmother) is interred d 7/2/1874, also there were 2 bairns who died in 1864,1869 and 3rd 6.5.1874. As I said previously they arent in Rothes as I only found his son Alexander and family.
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Hibberd: Sheffield, Dronfield, Yorkshire; Barry: England, Echuca Victoria Australia; Reid: Dumbarton to Tasmania; Parkin: Leeds to Tasmania: Younie: Moray,Scotland to Tasmania:Horsham: England to Tasmania
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Forfarian
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I have a copy of his death certificate. It says married to:- 1. Jane Stewart 2. Helen Shearer .... I guess then this means Helen has gone before him?
No. It means Helen was still alive. If she had died before him he would have been described as 'widower of 1. Jane Stewart and 2. Helen Shearer.'
Sometimes I chase my tail. Where would be records be for his grave? Elgin, in the council offices. There are also microfilms of the burial ground registers in the Heritage Centre, but it could take a while to go through them if you don't know which cemetery he is in.
I dont know where wife No 1 (gt gt grandmother) is interred d 7/2/1874, also there were 2 bairns who died in 1864,1869 and 3rd 6.5.1874. As I said previously they arent in Rothes as I only found his son Alexander and family.
Do you mean you didn't find a stone? The absence of a stone does not mean they are noy buried there, because probably the majority of folk didn't have stones. If they died in Rothes in the 1870s it is extremely likely that that are buried in Rothes.
A bit missing on edge but looks like November 24 at New Spynie signed by the same Registrar as on the main part of the form. Is this his funeral? No. you don't get funeral details on death certificates after 1860. If it is in the left margin, could it be a RCE (Register of Corrected Entries)?
"The cottage, Woodlands in the Parish of New Spynie" (Could it have been a nursing home or did they have them then?).
It was probably his home, or the home of a relative who was looking after him.
Have you looked in Scotland's People for the death of Helen Shearer or Younie? She will be indexed by both her maiden and her married name, so she shouldn't be hard to find.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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rodgerk
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I'm pretty certain that Alexander Simpsons mother was Margaret (Maryaret) Shearer and not Helen. Maryaret had a number of children out of marraige - my Grandmother (Mary Jane Duff, born Duff Cottage in Rothes) used to tell me of some 'scandal' in her family. That would be Maryaret - if you check the 1901 census you will see that Alexander Simpson is staying with his half-brother James Duff in Rothes.
It's really strange to find, by accident, that other people are checking out the same people
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Rodgerk
Welcome to RootsChat
It was this birth entry showing on IGI that made us think that Helen was the mother of Alexander (Simpson):
ALEXANDER SHEARER Birth: 28 JAN 1871 Mortlach, Banff, Scotland
Parents: Mother: HELEN SHEARER
Together with that 1871 census entry:
Maryaret Sherner 35
James Duff 7
William Sherner 3
Helen Sherner 24, sister
Alexander Simpson 2months
Address: Woodside, Mortlach
Hopefully Barb will pick up on your post and you can exchange family notes.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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joy58
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Hi
I was looking for something completely different when I spotted your ancestor, Alexander Younie.
My great grandmother, Margaret Watson, b1846 Elgin had several illegitimate children. She only names the father of one - Alexandrina Watson, b1873. In the Register of the Poor, she makes an application for Parochial Relief on 05 Sep 1881 for medical treatment for Alexandrina. The register says "Father of child is Alexr Younie, Weaver, Edinburgh who does not pay".
However, when Alexandrina dies in 1899 her death certificate says "Reputed Father - Alexander Younie, Farm Servant."
Do we have any link here do you think?
Kind regards
Joy
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KirstyG
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"The cottage, Woodlands in the Parish of New Spynie"
North side of Elgin, just past Bishopmill on the Duffus road (the B9012)
http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html
Kirsty
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