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Roj47
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Having received assistance and read help other's have received I am hoping for further assistance on this section of my tree.
It has been stagnant for nearly 18 months, and would really love a break or even better..... Bump into someone searching the same tree.
My section of tree for Archibald finishes in Middlesbrough after moving in 1850s.
I have traced back to Andrew Archibald and Margaret Forrester (married 1776) with a child (one of five) Charles Archibald (b 1785 cameron, fife, scotland. Parents as Andrew archibald and margaret foster)marrying Betsey Borland. I am struggling to get further back at present. I believe Andrew's father was also called Andrew and I estimate birth around 1750.
I have a marriage 12th May 1776 - Kinross, Scotland
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
I have a marriage 10th May 1776 - Burntisland, Fife, Scotland
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
For Margaret I have references to Forrester, Forester, Foster and Forster as I look into it, and am aware that marriages in scotland could be logged up to three times (the marriage and homes for bride and groom).
Regards
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Roj47
Have you thought to look at the OPR image for the Kinross marriage, an actual extract ( I haven't checked on SP whether the Burntisland entry is supported by an actual entry - the IGI one is submitted). You might be fortunate and find details of at least fathers' names on the entry on the Register.
Following their marriage, the first born child showing on the OPRs looks to be a William in 1777 and then a John in 1779. There is a birth of an Andrew to a William father in Fife (also other entries to fathers Andrew or John, all in Fife, in the period you are looking at):
02/02/1755 ARCHIBALD ANDREW Parents: WILLIAM ARCHIBALD/ISABELL PATERSON FR181 M Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE 456/ 0010 0239
Hard to say without additional info to corroborate the entries. I also can't see any girls on IGI that would help with supporting entries for mother's name.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Roj47
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Many thanks for a fast reply, and will look into the names you provide. Will take some confirming, but certainly further forward than anytime in 18 months 
Around 18 months ago I purchased marriage details, but was unable to find further details. I was advised that it could be a bann (?), which would not be an official document (?).
I have charles confirmed -
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
my GG-grandfather
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
my g-grandfather
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
The reason for thinking the next line back is as a result of this link -
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Roj47
The links you are showing for familysearch/IGI are not working. I think you need to type in the search results on to your post here (from memory, the IGI search results don't transfer over when you copy and paste the search results URL).
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Roj47
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Oops.... Thank you Here is a copy and paste for the above post of mine -
Richard J. ARCHIBALD Household
Male
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Other Information:
Birth Year <1880>
Birthplace Mbro, York, England
Age 1
Occupation
Marital Status
Head of Household Richard ARCHIBALD
Relation Son
Disability
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Source Information:
Dwelling 56 Grange Rd East
Census Place Middlesbrough, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342168
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4850 / 60
Page Number 6
Richard ARCHIBALD Household
Male
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Other Information:
Birth Year <1839>
Birthplace Scotland
Age 42
Occupation Draper
Marital Status M <Married>
Head of Household Richard ARCHIBALD
Relation Head
Disability
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Source Information:
Dwelling 56 Grange Rd East
Census Place Middlesbrough, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342168
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4850 / 60
Page Number 6
RICHARD ARCHIBALD
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 DEC 1838 Associate Session, Pathstruie, Perth, Scotland
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: CHARLES ARCHIBALD Family
Mother: ELISABETH BORLAND
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
CHARLES ARCHIBALD
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 MAR 1785 Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: ANDREW ARCHIBALD Family
Mother: MARGARET FOSTER
Sorry this is long now 
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MonicaLesl
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Don't be sorry it's long - all info is useful  . I've got to pop out for a while, I'll have a look through when I get back.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Roj47
I have to admit defeat on your Andrew b. c. 1750s at this stage. I can see an Ancestral file for the possible family, Andrew with father Andrew, that I think you are referring to on family search.
The problem I have with that entry is that with the OPR entries for the five sons that show to Andrew and Margaret, following their marriage in 1776, there is no sign of a son Andrew and there doesn't seem many gaps in the early years following their marriage:
William b. 1777
John b. 1779
David b. 1782
Charles b. 1785
Robert b. 1787
It is hard in this period as records become much thinner on the ground. Can I ask, have you looked at the OPR entries for the banns/marriage on SP (the Burntisland on IGI is backed up by an actual OPR entry) to see whether they contain any useful info?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Roj47
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Many thanks for looking..... Driven me mad for months lol...
I have the Bann and marriage details, but they do not shed any light on parents.
In desperation I tried the 1841 census on the hope of a relative living to 90+, but surprise..... nope
Will get a lucky break no doubt........
Regards
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