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Topic: 1851/61/71 census look-up, please - Kay - Kildwick/Cononly (Read 1422 times)
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Amanda36
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Hi,
Joseph Golding Kay was born 1821 in Manchester (according to the 1881 census). He married Rachel Smalley 1844 in the Blackburn district. Their eldest son that I have been able to confirm from the 1881 census is William Golding born 1847. He is recorded as being born in Blackburn. Their eldest daughter, Sarah Jane, is recorded as born 1853 Kildwick.
I would like to confirm other children of Joseph and Rachel who were probably born Kildwick/Cononly 1847 - 1871.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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daviesa
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Hi amanda
Ive got details for 1861
RG9/3187
72 Low Woodside, Cononley,Yorkshire
Joseph Golding Kay 39 landed resputer b. manchester
Rachel ~ 35 b. cononley
William Golding ~ 13 scholar b. blackburn
Elizabeth ~ 11 ~ ~
Sarah Jane ~ 7 ~ b. cononley
Edward Denton ~ 5 ~ ~
Annie ~ 3 ~
Ellen Louisa ~ 1 ~
Regards Alison. 
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suzard
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1851
Abbott St
Blackburn
lancs
Joseph Golding Kay head 30 Sizer? Lancs manchester
Rachel wife 25 Housekeeper Yorks Kilnwick
Mary daughter 5 lancs Blackburn
William Henry son 3 Lancs Blackburn
Elizabeth daughter 1 Lancs Blackburn
Margaret Edmundson ? sister M 37 Weaver Lancs Blackburn
William Edmundson son 14 Tenter Yorks Kilnwick
mary jane Edmundson daughter 10 Yorks Kilnwick
John Edmundson son 8 Kilnwick
Ann daughter 9mth Kilnwick
Henry kay Brother in law 22 Sizer? Lancs Blackburn
HO107 2259 168 41
"Sizer"-one who applies size to textiles
I would imagine "size" to mean a kind of glue/starch
hope this is correct family -can't see another -it's quite a journey from Sizer to landowner to private gentleman to retired farmer??
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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1871
Hillside
Cononley
Joseph Golding Kay head M 49 land owner lancs Manchester
Rachel wife 45 Kilnwick
Elizabeth daughter 21 lancs blackburn
Edward denton son 15 Kilnwick
Annie daughter 13 Kilnwick
Ellen Louisa daughter 11 Kilnwick
Rachel daughter 5 Kilnwick
Joseph Summer son 6 Kilnwick
RG10 4253 11 16
Suz
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Amanda36
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Hi Alison and Suz,
Thank you so much for your speedy reply. The information is terrific.
Very best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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drewster
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Hi Amanda, Could you please tell me your connection to the Kay's of Kildwick as Joseph Golding Kay was my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather. His Father George was a Silk Manufacturer in Manchester, have you any more information on them?
Regards Andrew
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Amanda36
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Hi Andrew
My connection to the Kays is that William Ewart Kay born 1898, son of Edward Denton Kay born 1855 son of Joseph Golding Kay born 1821 married my great aunt, Ada Brotherton.
I have some information on the Kays that I would be happy to pass onto you but it is only the basics I have obtained from the internet, IGI, Freebmd etc.
If you email me with your email address I would be glad to send you the info.
Best regards
Amanda
PS
Check out http://crofttimes.co.uk/Joseph-g-kay.html
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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little meg
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Hi Amanda,
I will have a look at the Kildwick parish registers for you and hopefully provide you with some more information.
Also ... the name Smalley, might be a small connection but I will have to go over my paperwork first 
Margaret
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Please scan all pics at 300-600 DPI for restoration purposes, thankyou.
Simpson-Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Overend-Sutton, Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Whitaker - Cononley/Yorkshire, Pickard - Silsden/Yorkshire, Howarth - Skipton/Yorkshire and Lancashire, Heaton-Yorkshire, Preston-Yorkshire, Myers-Yorkshire & Australia, Wild-Yorkshire & Australia. Storey-Middlesex/Australia
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little meg
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Hi Amanda,
not a great deal to offer I am afraid.
Nothing in the baptisms or the burials.
A couple in the marriages to offer:
Marriages at Kildwick.
- Annie Kay to Robert Moor on the 21/4/1880
- Sarah Jane Kay to Thomas Butler Idle on the 16/6/1874
(note* there was no comma after Butler so I presume his surname was Idle, may need to check census for that one)
- Ellen Kay to Lot Walmsley on the 26/10/1897
Also these that do not appear to be yours but because the name Kay does not show up much in the registers I have included them.
- Hannah Kay to Moses Stansfield on the 2/4/1870
- Mary Kay to Mason Lee Fleming on the 13/9/1870
Re: name Smalley.
The Rachel Smalley you have that married Joseph Golding Kay appears to have been baptised on the 25th Dec 1825, Kildwick. Parents: Joseph and Mary Smalley. (IGI)
I think it is this Joseph who remarried to a Drusilla Whitaker, who is linked to my line. I have a word doc on John Smalley son of Joseph and Mary and would be happy to send to you if you can pm me with your email address.
I have other details but still searching
Hope some of this helps,
Margaret
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Please scan all pics at 300-600 DPI for restoration purposes, thankyou.
Simpson-Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Overend-Sutton, Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Whitaker - Cononley/Yorkshire, Pickard - Silsden/Yorkshire, Howarth - Skipton/Yorkshire and Lancashire, Heaton-Yorkshire, Preston-Yorkshire, Myers-Yorkshire & Australia, Wild-Yorkshire & Australia. Storey-Middlesex/Australia
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little meg
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Re Smalley connection.
I have found my docs on this line and am quite happy to send to you.
Will need you to pm me with your email address though.
I have a list of all Rachael's siblings, baptisms, some census, and some contacts
Margaret
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Please scan all pics at 300-600 DPI for restoration purposes, thankyou.
Simpson-Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Overend-Sutton, Kildwick,Yorkshire & Australia, Whitaker - Cononley/Yorkshire, Pickard - Silsden/Yorkshire, Howarth - Skipton/Yorkshire and Lancashire, Heaton-Yorkshire, Preston-Yorkshire, Myers-Yorkshire & Australia, Wild-Yorkshire & Australia. Storey-Middlesex/Australia
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Merryth
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Hi Amanda
I have been researching the Kay's too, my Grandmother was Ada Brotherton. So I guess my Mum is a cousin of yours?
Lindsay
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drewster
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Hi,
The Mary Kay you have found married to Mason Lee Fleming is the eldest sister of Edward Denton Kay my Gt Gt Grandfather, as far as I have found they had 4 children,Joseph,Walter,Kate and Robert they lived in Grassington.
I also have William Ewart Kay son of Edward Denton Kay married to Ada Walker having two children Brenda and Irene, is this wrong?
Edward Denton Kay and Annie Louise Coe had 16 children my Gt Grandma being the eldest, I have a copy of a photo taken about 1901 after the birth of the twins Walter and Edgar alas Kitty was born in 1902 so is missing. They lived in Carleton Nr Skipton.
Joseph Smalley, father of Rachel had as far as I have found had two other daughters Elizabeth and Jamima.
Joseph's father was called John born c1767.
I hope some of this is of use.
Andrew
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Amanda36
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Hi Andrew
Thank you for the info. I am very excited today because the previous message was from my cousin once removed or second cousin, never sure which. Any hoo, a Kay relative. William Ewart actually married Ada Brotherton, my grandfather's sister. I am very much looking forward to making contact with my Kay/Brotherton relation. I believe she is in fact the daughter of Brenda who you mentioned.
Thank you for the info on Edward Denton. It is very much appreciated.
Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Merryth
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Hi yes, Ada had three children a son who died age 3 days, Leonard, then 2 daughters, Brenda, my Mum, and Irene, who has no children and still lives in the UK. Brenda married Frank Helm and lives in SA with 3 children. Lindsay, me, Fraser and Stuart. I shall be in touch , Amanda
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yorkshirekays
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I have just come across this thread and am amazed! My husband is the Gt Gt Gt Grandson of Joseph Golding Kay and I have never been able to get further back with the Kay family tree. I have a copy of Joseph's marriage certificate to Rachel Smalley which clearly states Joseph Kay as Joseph's father, but a posting on here has it as George. No wonder I couldn't find him! Where has this information come from and does anyone have any more information about George Kay and the silk industry or the connection between Blackburn and Manchester? My husband's grandmother was Edith Kay who was the daughter of Thomas Edward Kay who was the son of Edward Denton Kay who was the son of Joseph Golding Kay. Edward Denton was ramrod straight and very strict, according to Edith. I also have a copy of the 1901 photo showing Edward Denton with his large family, including the twins, and I have several others. I would love to hear from anyone else connected to this line.
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