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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 18:33 BST (UK) »

I think you are right  Charles Casbolt has led a very interesting life,marrys a Mary Betchetti in Newcastle and lives with her in 1891 census no kids at Cambridge,then leaves her between 1891 and 1893 and marry's Mary Ann Barker in Sept quart 1893 at Saffron Walden and has three children with her then lives with her elder sister Alice Barker in Cambridge and has at least four children with her and dies in 1906 aged 50,he must have left Mary Ann Barker not long before the 1901 census so she put down she was a widow in the census,in the 1901 census Charles Casbolts only wife who he married in Newcastle is alive and well living in Kettering and is a Charwoman,well thats seems to be the story behind the results we have from the census and certs,but I wanted to make sure by getting to Essex Records to look up the Mary Ann Barker marriage which will I believe have taken place at Littlebury,this will give me his fathers name and so we could then be certain,but the records are closed Friday and all of next week as well so I will have to wait.

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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:25 BST (UK) »

,in the 1901 census Charles Casbolts only wife who he married in Newcastle is alive and well living in Kettering and is a Charwoman,
Best Regards Brian.

I see on the 1901 census, Mary has two children,
Annie Marie 15, b Hampshire &  Joseph James 13, b Cambridge.
If this is the correct Mary, where were the children in 1891?   Angry
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:33 BST (UK) »

Not sure I only looked at the 1901 census site I did not see the actual census,so thats two more children to add to the brood did Mary say she was married or a widow? and we have a Hampshire birth as well,makes a change from Essex or Cambridge.
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:39 BST (UK) »

Do you think we are straying a bit?..... Undecided

1901 RG13/1447 Folio 69
Mary Casebolt Head 42 M b York          Charwoman
Annie Marie Casebolt Dau 15 b Aldershot, Hampshire     Shoe/Boot machinist
Joseph James Casebolt Son 13 b Cambridgeshire   Shoe finisher     
Prideman Sq., Kettering, Northamptonshire
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:40 BST (UK) »

No children on the 1891 census...

1891 census RG12/1284 Folio 11
Charles Casbolt Lodger 35 b Balsham, Cambridgeshire   Brewers labourer
Mary Casbolt Wife 32? b Yorkshire
Abbey Walk, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

1871 census RG10/4753 Folio 14
Simon P Betchetti Head 25 b York, Yorkshire     Glass bottle maker
Maria Betchetti Wife 27 b York
Mary Betchetti Dau 12 b York
Dominie Betchetti Son 3 b York
Fishergate, Walmgate, York, Yorkshire

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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 19:53 BST (UK) »

No I don't think we are straying,both the children are in the freebmd,and of course as he married Mary in 1878 we still have 6/7 years when they could have had more before he left,the children from the early years of this marriage would be old enough by the 1901 to be on there own,but apart from there being loads of half brothers and sisters ,It's not that important in the context of the Casbolt /Barker connection,its just a shame I cannot wrap this up until I can get to the records,thanks for you help.
Brian.
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #36 on: Friday 29 June 07 17:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Just to let you know that I pulled the Littlebury records and Mary A Casbolt who said she was a widow in 1901 census was telling the truth,but the amazing thing is she married a Charles Casbolt who died in 1898,this death has  not been sent on to central records,just shows you cannot be certain with free bmd that all the records are there even if it has been law since about 1875,the old parish records still win out sometimes,well it is still weird that Mary's sister lived and had children with another Charles Casbolt who was already married,my friend has now got the family history bug and so he is now in charge of this search,thanks for all your help.
Best Regards Brian.
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #37 on: Friday 29 June 07 19:56 BST (UK) »

It's not FreeBMD, who transcribe literally what's in the GRO index. So if it's not in the index FreeBMD obviously can't transcribe it.

The local register office may have mistranscribed the entry when sending it off to the GRO, or may have missed it off altogether. If you check with the register office rather than the GRO you may find the entry.

Remember that, at least in theory, after 1837 the church was not allowed to bury anyone without sight of the death registration. You seem to have found the burial rather than the death.

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #38 on: Friday 29 June 07 22:03 BST (UK) »

Hi David
   I think you missed the point,of my posting,it was to let Willow know that I had found the last bit of the puzzle as far as I was concerned,and to make a observation that you still have to get out from behind the computer with all the cd's and Ancestry and go to the good old parish records,and I am quiet sure that it is not in the GRO and as you pointed cannot be in freebmd because of that,but I used freebmd in my posting because thats what most people use,not living near London,and most people not wanting to get invovled with local registry offices which may be open on Monday from 11am to 2 pm,with regard to finding a burial rather than a death,thats what I went looking for if my pal wants to know when Charles Casbolt who married his partners sister actually died he may have to get along to Saffron Walden registry office one monday morning. Still Willow and I had a great chase for this family history.
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Re: 1891 census look up
« Reply #39 on: Friday 29 June 07 22:38 BST (UK) »

Still Willow and I had a great chase for this family history.
Best Regards

We sure did    Wink

Glad to hear it resolved.

Sue
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