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RoseCanada
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 May 05 06:00 UTC (UK) »


Hi Moscan......
This is my family, but I think you are responding to the delightful reply from JAP??  I am computer literate, but I really don't understand this site......so I guess I'm not. Smiley

If you tie into John Hoggan and Catherine Logan, I'd love to talk with you.  roseontheroad@hotmail



Had a couple of credits so checked the deaths like Jap advised... found the death of John Hoggan who was married to Catherine Logan Hoggan.... details as follows:-

John Hoggan (Coalminer) Married to Catherine Hoggan nee Logan died November 15th 1891 at 9.50 am at Old Pit Bothkennar aged 61 years of age.  His parents names as listed as William Hoggan ( coalminer ) and Margaret Hoggan nee Taylor

Cause of death is listed as:-  Bronchitis 10 days; Asthma 6 months; Disease of the heart 2 years as certified by W. Walker MD

Death Registered by John Mannon ( I am not sure of this )     Son in law not present.


Best wishes

Mo
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RoseCanada
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 May 05 06:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi JAP,

Thanks for so much for the lengthy reply.  I wish you had been around at the beginning of all my Hogganing!

I have the death certificates for both John HOGGAN and Catherine LOGAN HOGGAN.  Catherine's parents are listed as Alexander LOGAN and Catherine SNEDDON, but I can find no marriage or death certificates for them.

It's terrific that SP lists a married woman's death under the maiden name too.  My paternal grandmother's marriage is actually listed under three names.......what a surprise that was.

LDS has been very useful, but you are quite right, there are errors.
I do have the SP extract for John HOGGAN and Catherine LOGAN and as well John's parents William HOGGAN and Margaret TAYLOR
There was no useful information on either.

I have managed to find all the 10 children of John and Catherine and have birth certificates for all but Agnes HOGGAN who seems to have been the first child -- about 1851 (pre-marriage). I do have her marriage and death certificate.

The children were:
1)  Agnes  b. abt.1851  d. Dec. 27, 1887 Married to William Cook
Children:  Robert, Mary Allan, and Catherine
2) William   b.  Apr. 6, 1853  d.  Apr. 12, 1940 in Esquimalt, BC Canada He was married twice:  Maggie Fleming, and Clementina Muirhead. He died living with his sister Margaret, and Clementina died in Scotland. Wonder the why of that one?  His children with Maggie Fleming were Jane and John.
3) Robert Sneddon b. Jan. 25, 1856  d. Dec. 21, 1919 in Alberta, Canada.  Married to Margaret Easton.  Children: John, Janet Cowan, Catherine Logan, George Easton, Robert Sneddon, William Wellington, Margaret Easton, Agnes Easton
4)  Catherine Sneddon b.  Apr. 2, 1858  married to Archibald Downs.  One child found...so far.....John.  The rest of their life is still to be found.
5)  John  b. June 4, 1860  married to Margaret Campbell Easton.  I believe they came to Canada as well, but more research to be done.
6)  Margaret Taylor b. Dec. 8, 1862  d.  Dec. 11, 1941 Esquimalt, BC, Canada.  She married John Manson and had these children in Scotland before emigrating:  Catherine, Jessie, George, John, and Margaret.
7)  Jane  b.  Mar. 11, 1865  d.  May 16, 1950 in Ladysmith, BC Canada.  She married James Steel Dick. Children:  Catherine, Walter, Elizabeth Steel, John, Jessie, Robert Hoggan Sneddon, Isabella, Ann, Christina Hunter Dick (my cousin, but also my aunt) and James.
8.  Janet  b. May 10, 1868  d.  Nov. 11, 1876  died of typhoid
9.  Andrew  b.  June 13, 1870. This is one that is driving me crazy......I know he emigrated to Canada.  He and my grandfather built two hotels in Merritt, BC, and then he seems to have disappeared.
10.  Alexander  b. May 27, 1872  d.  Sept. 19, 1930  (my grandfather).  Married Christina Snaddon--Hunter--Stansbury...take your pick.  Children:  John, Henry Stansbury, James Alexander, (my father)  Christina, Mary Jane, and William Daniel Stansbury.

I've checked into the 1871 census, but can't wait until earlier ones come online.  Stuck until then, I think.

Your reply is greatly appreciated!
Rosemary
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 May 05 12:20 UTC (UK) »

Hello to PBN and Rosemary from sunny South Africa. Thank you for your replies. I was most grateful to hear from the two of you. It seems we may be referring to the same family line. As my father, Kenneth, was born when his father was in his forties and had intermittent contact with his father, he did'nt get down much of his father's family history. John Raymond Hoggan, also known as "Jack" to his family was my father's father. His "Grand Aunt" Eleanor Hoggan as she signs herself in a letter lived in Midlothian Scotland at the end of World War 1 as she refers to life after the War. She mentions that a daughter had emigrated with her family to Yukon territory, Canada. Her son in Scotland was evidently a doctor, as she makes mention of the fact. My father has visited Waterside House in Keir in Scotland. It seems that some of the Hoggans came from Dumfrieshire. I am still trying to identify John Raymond's father. There was mention that he had been killed in Buenos Aires doing work for the British government. Whether this is true or not, I do not Know.
It seems as if John Raymond Hoggan was a regular soldier as he definitely rose to the rank of sergeant in the mounted forces during the Anglo Boer War. I have photo of him in uniform. Apparently, his sister also emigrated to South Africa after the Anglo Boer War. First name not known.
Further information will be appreciated. Any documented information can be sent to:
graham_hoggan@yahoo.com

Kind regards

Roy Hoggan
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 20:20 UTC (UK) »

Rosemary (and any other Hoggan enthusiasts)

I've found more Hoggans, this time in Muiravonside Cemetery and have photos. Haven't a clue how to attach to this site and have lost your personal e-mail address. Please get in touch and I'll send them direct.

Anne
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 19:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi all,

Incase it's of any use to anyone, I have seen at least 1 Hoggan headstone within Slamannan Cemetery, Slamannan near Falkirk.

If anyone needs a digital photo of the  stone(s), let me know, I'm only 15 mins drive from Slamannan and am currently researching my family, of whom, some  were born in Slamannan.
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Australia: Houston, Howson
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #20 on: Friday 04 November 05 00:36 UTC (UK) »

I'm the great granddaughter of the Yukon Hoggan, John Hoggan.  He was born in India to Maj. Gen Hoggan (don't know the date) and his second wife.  I think her name may have been Katherine or Catherine.  She was only 18 or 19 years old when he was born.  He emigrated to Canada in 1898 or 1899 during the Yukon gold rush and spent many years as a riverboat captain.  I'm not really into geneology, so I probably don't have much useful information as to dates and such, but here goes:  (I'm just sticking to his children as I don't know if my cousins want the info on here about them.)

John and his wife, Kate had eight children.  My great aunt Lillian was 24 years older than my grandmother, so they were quite spread out.

Six were born in the Yukon.

-Lillian (born in England around 1890)
-Helena (born in England around 1890)
-Florence
-Dorothy
-John (called Johnny)
-Robert
-George
-Marjorie (my Grandmother, born in 1914 or 1915)

We had two or three female cousins in England and a male cousin, Tom Hoggan, in Vancouver, who's letters I have from WW1.    They're the only relatives I know of.  I thought the line had died out, actually, as two cousins married and decided not to have children, and the others were women who didn't marry.  Elaine and Molly are the names I know of.
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #21 on: Friday 04 November 05 05:52 UTC (UK) »

Greetings,
Researching HOGGAN, SNEDDON, and (probably) FLEMING surname histories from Stirlingshire, Sauchie, and Clackmannan, Scotland.  I am relying on information located on birth, marriage, death, and census sources for the following individuals:

1)  Russell SNEDDON and wife Ellen married in mid 
     1800's
2)  Their son, William, born 1870/1871 in Sauchie,   
      Scotland, married  06 Aug 1894 to Jane HOGGAN, 
      born  19 Mar 1878 in Stirlingshire, Scotland, the 
      daughter of William and Margaret HOGGAN.  William
      died 15 Feb 1901 in the Cumberland mine explosion
      in Union, British Columbia, Canada, leaving Jane   
      (Jeanie, Jennie) with four children and pregnant. 
3)   William and Jane's children:
      Margaret (Maggie) Fleming b. 25  Mar 1895 in B.C. 
      Canada
      Nellie b. 02 Apr 1896 in B.C. Canada
      Russell b. 18 Jul 1897 in Clackmannan, Scotland
      William Hoggan b. 26 Mar 1899 in Stirling, Scotland
      John Hoggan b. 10 Jul 1901 in Nanaimo, B.C. 
     Canada
3)  Margaret (Maggie) Fleming married Edward Thomas 
     SMITH 01 Oct 1913 in Victoria, B.C. Canada.   
     Children are:
4)  Margaret Genevieve b. 02 Aug 1914 in Seattle, WA 
      USA
      Edward William b. 24 Nov 1915 in Seattle, WA USA
      Russell Ernest b. 27 Mar 1917 in Seattle, WA USA
      Viola b. 26 Jun 1918 in Seattle, WA USA


I would appreciate any help.  Thank you. 


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RoseCanada
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #22 on: Friday 04 November 05 23:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Tweetie,
I probably have a great deal of common ground with you as I'm also deeply into Hoggans and Snaddon/Sneddons.  I started family treeing about a year ago.....knowing nothing, and now have over 7000 people in my computer program.
I'd be very happy to exchange information with you.
roseontheroad@hotmail.com
My Hoggans are from Stirling; the Snaddons from Clackmannan.  I, too, have many Flemings, Muirheads, Kirkwoods, Strangs, Patersons, and oh, the Hunters! Smiley
Rosemary
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 17:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Managed to get back to Slamannan Cemetery. I've photographed the headstones I could find containing the name Hoggan.
It's on my own website at:
http://www.alanex.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/slamannan.htm

Ther may be more which I've missed, or on the stones which are badly worn by the weather. There is even unmarked graves that you would have to contact the local council about to get names for.

Hopefully the photos I have will be of use to someone.

Regards,

Alan.
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USA: Melville, White
Australia: Houston, Howson
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RoseCanada
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 17 November 05 15:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Alan,
I tried to access your website, but was forbidden???

I'm interested in your comment about contacting council about unmarked graves.  Could you tell me more?

Rosemary
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 November 05 19:38 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, try my website again, my ISP messed up.
I'll try and get contact details for you on nmarked graves.

Alan
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Ireland: Hogg, Murdoch
USA: Melville, White
Australia: Houston, Howson
Canada: Houston, Pennycook
RoseCanada
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 15:25 UTC (UK) »

Successful this time, Alan!  Many thanks.  I see I have some more money to spend in SP as I locate some of these marriages. Smiley  And there I thought I was going to retire early!  Have you done the same thing for cemeteries in Denny?

How very kind you are to post these genealogical clues on the net.  Thank you!
Rosemary
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 16:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rosemary,

Firstly, I must apologise - did I never get round to sending you all the photos of Hoggan graves in Denny & surrounding districts?

I thought I had - knuckles rapped for me!

I'll rake them out and send them to your hotmail address.

Anne
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 24 November 05 15:46 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks, Anne; you are wonderful.  I'm hoping to make a trip to Scotland in the summer of 2007 and see them in person, too!  I thought of you as I was crawling and photographing headstones on Vancouver Island a few weeks ago.  Also thinking how silly I was not to have been doing that in summer than a November's day. Smiley   
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Re: HOGGAN
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 21:13 UTC (UK) »

I have a copy of my family tree from Captain James Hoggan, 5th Dragoon guards (no date, unfortunately, but sometime before 1740 when his son, Major George Hoggan was born.)  There isn't a tree for his brother James - I don't know if there isn't one, or if it wasn't our side of the family, so the person doing the tree didn't care.
Waterside was purchased in 1782.
There were 12 children of George Hogan. The ones who had had children, were:
James 1783-1834, Sophia (Smith)1785, Major General John (my however many greats) 1789,  Lt. Col Willian Hoggan, 1798 - 1860 and Helen (Vetch)1800-1857

The family tree doesn't show all of the generations of any one but my direct ancestors, up to my grandmothers generation, but some of the names that the girls married into are:
Ewarts. Streets. Bradshaws, Morrisons, Saxbys, and Davies.

If anyone would like more details, please let me know.

Susan 
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