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carolineawood
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sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« on: Monday 02 April 07 14:59 BST (UK) »
looking fo details of birth of Sheila c 1917- I am starting in this area as her father was born in Kilarrow/Bowmore in 1878. Many thanks
Caroline
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:12 BST (UK) »
The ScotlandsPeople online index of births only covers the period 1855 to 1906.  For births after that date you would have to visit or have someone visit Register House, Edinburgh.

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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Caronine


Alternatively, you can order the birth cert -  have a look at this link here on RootsChat: www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,193879.0.html

Parents' marriage will probably be available on Scotlands People (cut off date is 1931 for that type of event). I did a quick search and there are only two Ballingal marriages after 1900-1931, none in Argyll.

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Monica
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 April 07 15:20 BST (UK) »
I am really struggling to find a marriage hre1 I have found the birth of Alexander cameron Ballingal in 1878 in Bowmore/Kilarrow. I also have a mrriage cert fgor his daughter Sheila cameron Ballingal who, according to the m/cert in 1945, was born c 1917. At the moment I can find no marriage for Sheila's parents in either Scotland or England records. all I can find is Robert Rennie Ballingal, born in the same area in 1867 and at school in Cheltenham in 1881 and married in London in 1895. Could this have been Alexander's brother?
What else do you sugges?
Caroline
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 April 07 16:14 BST (UK) »
Assuming that Sheila was born in Scotland, her birth certificate will give the date and place of her parents marriage.

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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 April 07 16:39 BST (UK) »
Caroline

Robert Rennie Bannigal's birth is showing in Edinburgh not Argyll:

ROBERT RENNIE BALLINGAL  Birth:  09 JUN 1867     Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. Parents: Father: ROBERT BALLINGAL Mother: ANNA MACLEAN

Do these parents match those of Alexander b. 1878?

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Monica
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 April 07 16:47 BST (UK) »
..No they don't!

This looks like your Alexander with family in the 1881 census:

James J. R. Ballingal, 47, estate factor, b. Kenmory, Fife
Annie, wife, 42, b. Kilchoman, Argyll
Robert, 5, b, Kilbmeny, Argyll
Alexander, 2, Bowmore, Argyll
James E., 1, b. Bowmore, Argyll
Mary Cameron, mother in law, widowed, 74, annuitant, b. England

4 Servants in the household.

Address: Eallabus House, Bowmore, Argyll


This looks like  part of the tree has been done for Alexander: www.clan-cameron.org.au/pedigree.php?personID=I36267&tree=cameron1
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 April 07 17:03 BST (UK) »
The family in 1891:

I(J?) S R Ballingal 57, estate factor, b. Kennoway, Fifeshire
Annie Ballingal 52,
Alexander Ballingal 12
James Ballingal 11
John Ballingal    9
Mary Ballingal    7
Mary Cameron    84
Mary Johnstone    24, serv
Ann McPhatter    26, serv
Catherine Smith 30, serv

Address: Eallabus, Kilarrow, Bowmore


What was Sheila's mother's name or is this info you are trying to confirm?

Regards.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 07 17:09 BST (UK) »
Mary Cameron, Annie's mother's will might provide some additional info on the family. From SP's Wills & Testaments:

Cameron   Mary   27/07/1894   or Stiles, Eallabus, Islay, d. 03/03/1894 at Eallabus, testate       Dunoon Sheriff Court   SC51/32/44 - 5 Pages
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 April 07 17:37 BST (UK) »
Good and bad news  Undecided  I found Alexander's death entry on SP which is great except it is on the marine register. As such, not available to view on line and has to be ordered.

1930   BALLINGAL   ALEXANDER CAMER           M   51   MARINE REGISTER   /MINOR RECORDS   030/MR 0189   No Image   ORDER
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 April 07 19:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for all your help! That is amazing!
Can anyone trace the birth of their daughter Sheila Ballingal born c 1917.
Can anyone trace a mrriage for Alexander cameron Ballingal to Sheila's mother?

Huge thanks for everyone's help!!!!
Caroline
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 April 07 19:12 BST (UK) »
Sheila married a Mr Pitman at some point as she was a widow aged 28 when she remarried in chelsea in 1945 so I guess Mr Pitman was in the forces and a casualty of WW2 but I cannot find this marriage either in English records - anything in Scottish listings?

I really appreciate all the help that everyone has come up ith so quickly! Truly amazing!
Caroline

I have now found the marriage of Sheila Cameron Ballingal to leslie C Pitman in Q4 1939 in Chelsea.
Caroline
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 April 07 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Caroline Smiley

Sheila was born on June 11th, 1917 at Surabaya (Java).
Her father Alexander Cameron Ballingal died on June 7th 1930 of angina plectoris while cruising at Mediterranean. Was buried at sea.

Will e-mail copies to you Smiley

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Michael
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Re: sheila cameron BALLINGAL
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 April 07 13:03 BST (UK) »
Michael may have already given you this  information -  you will find the details of Leslie Pitman's death on the CWGC site

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2229804

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