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Topic: Birth records, Gander, Lewes 1851-1873 (Read 1162 times)
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Valda
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Soldiers discharge to pension papers have been indexed online between 1760-1854
WO 97 Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
Record Summary
Title 1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271)
The covering dates for the entire WO97 series is 1760-1913.
The remainder of the records are (WO 97/1722-6322).
The documents are arranged in three series by date of discharge to pension: for the period 1760-1872 the documents are arranged alphabetically by name within regiment, including militia to 1854 (WO 97/1-1721); from 1873-1882 the documents are arranged alphabetically under cavalry, artillery, infantry and corps (WO 97/1722-2171); from 1883-1913 there is one alphabetical sequence for the entire army (WO 97/2172-6322).
So if you can get to The National Archives finding a soldier after 1883 is not problematical since it is by alphabetical by surname but still much harder to find between 1854-1883. Obviously more difficult after 1854 if you can't get to Kew. The majority of soldiers of course were not discharged to pension.
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Valda
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mandmsports
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Hi Valda,
I found the index on the site that you mention, for Henry Gander. I do not think that I will be getting to the Archives anytime soon, as I am in Canada. Thanks.
Mike
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
Harper, Kent, Somerset
Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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You can order copies of Henry Gander's attestation papers electronically from TNA site just follow the instructions for 'request this'
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Valda
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mandmsports
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Thank you, Valda. I have the ball rolling on that, now.
Mike
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
Harper, Kent, Somerset
Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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mec
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Hello am the descendant of Charles Gander (son of Thomas and Jane nee Washer).
If you require details on that line for your records please let me know, be happy to provide info. Also have done some research on the Washers of Chailey.
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Mandmsports
These are the Gander Baptisms from the registers of St John Sub Castro between 1846 and 1902 - at least 4 of them belong to Thomas & Jane
Hope they help to clarify thingds for you
Chris in Hastings
1846 Oct 25 Gander Edward m s William Chariety John St Labourer
1848 Aug 27 Gander Martha f d William Chariety St John St Labourer
1849 Aug 26 Gander Harriette Attwood f d Harriette Brook St Single Woman
1850 May 26 Gander Margaret f d William Chariety OTP Labourer
1852 Apr 4 Gander Elizabeth f d William Chariety OTP Labourer
1853 Sep 25 Gander Henry m s William Charity OTP Labourer
1853 Jul 31 Gander Martha f d Thomas Jane OTP Labourer
1855 Oct 28 Gander Edith f d William Charity OTP Carrier
1855 Jun 24 Gander Mary f d Thomas Jane OTP Labourer
1857 Jun 28 Gander Mary f d William Mary Ann OTP Shoe Maker
1859 May 29 Gander Albert Hnery m s Mary Ann OTP -
1859 Feb 27 Gander William m s William Charity OTP Labourer
1862 Dec 28 Gander Elizabeth Ann f d Harry Frances OTP Labourer
1862 Aug 31 Gander George m s William Charity OTP Labourer
1862 Jul 13 Gander Henry m s Thomas Jane OTP Labourer
1866 Nov 12 Gander Emma Jane f d Richard Susannah OTP Labourer
1867 Jun 30 Gander Harriet f d Harry Frances OTP Labourer
1867 Jun 30 Gander Harry m s Harry Frances OTP Labourer
1873 Nov 2 Gander Alfred m s Edward Emily OTP Labourer
1873 Aug 25 Gander William m s Thomas Jane OTP Labourer
1879 Oct 5 Gander Martha f d Mary OTP Servant
1884 Nov 2 Gander Chariet f d George Mary Brook St Labourer
1884 Nov 2 Gander Charity f d Edward Emily New Rd Labourer
1884 Nov 2 Gander Edith Alice f d Edward Emily New Rd Labourer
1884 Jun 1 Gander Thomas Ernest m s William Mary Ann 16 Brook St Labourer
1885 Dec 6 Gander George m s George Mary Brook St Labourer
1885 Feb 1 Gander Thomas Henry m s Mary Ann North Court -
1889 Mch 27 Gander William Henry m s George Mary OTP Labourer
1890 Apr 6 Gander Charles John m s George Mary Mount Cottages Labourer
1890 Apr 6 Gander Elizabeth Mary f d George Mary Mount Cottages Labourer
1895 Mch 3 Gander James m s Charles Lucy Ann 1 Spring Gdns Labourer
1898 Jun 5 Gander Edith Ruth May f d George May 5 Pleasant Pl Labourer
1899 Dec 3 Gander Sidney m s Benjamin Louisa 1 Sun St Moulder
1901 Jun 2 Gander Annie Florence f d Albert Cordelia Ann 4 Spring Gdns Bricklayer
1901 Feb 9 Gander Minnie f d Charles Lucy Ann 32 John St Bricklayers Labourer
1902 Sep 7 Gander Albert Edward m s Albert Cordelia Ann 4 Spring Gdns Brick Layer
1902 Aug 3 Gander Gladys May f d Benjamin Louisa 2 Sun St Moulder
1903 Nov 1 Gander William Alfred m Albert Cordelia Ann 4 Spring Gdns Bricklayer
1905 Apr 2 Gander Ernest George m Albert Cordelia Ann 4 Spring Gdns Bricklayer
1906 May 6 Gander John Henry m Albert Cordelia Annie 26 North St Bricklayer
1906 Aug 5 Gander Margaret Esther f George Mary 5 Pleasant Pl Labourer
1906 Mch 4 Gander Robert Edward m Benjamin Louise 2 Sun St Moulder
1907 Jul 7 Gander Frank Charles m Albert Annie 23 North St Bricklayer
1908 Jun 7 Gander Beatrice Annie f Benjamin Louisa 2 Sun St Moulder
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Chris in 1066Land
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Mandmsports
Baptisms between 1601 and 1845 in St John Sub Castro for Gander - funnily enough Thomas is not amongst them!!
Chris in 1066
1830 Oct 10 Gander Harriet f d Henry Harriet OTP Labourer
1832 Nov 4 Gander Jane f d Henry Harriot OTP Labourer
1835 Jan 11 Gander Elizabeth f d Henry Harriet OTP Labourer
1839 Jan 13 Gander Susannah Dennes f d Henry Harriet OTP Labourer
1843 Jul 16 Gander Esther f d William Chariety Flint Row Coach Painter
1843 Apr 23 Gander Harry m s Henry Harriette Flint Row Labourer
1845 May 18 Gander James m s Henry Harriet Flint Row Labourer
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Mandmsports
And just to help you complete the data - here is the burials for Gander in St John Sub Castro between 1800 and 1993
1907 January 12 Gander Annie Charity f Eastgate St 22 All Saints
1929 November 15 Gander Annie Florence f The Ridge, Lewes Rd 28 Haywards Heath
1932 October 25 Gander Charles Anthony m 5 Spring Gardens 9 OTP
1913 April 5 Gander Dorothy f 29 Noth St 0.4 OTP
1876 September 13 Gander Elizabeth f 63
1905 October 20 Gander Emily f North St 56 OTP
1926 March 11 Gander Ernest m 12 Spring Gardens 27 OTP
1935 January 24 Gander Ernest George m Sanatorium 30 Robertsbridge 556
1903 March 7 Gander Frances f 60 OTP 415
1905 September 14 Gander Frances Henry John m Brook St 27 OTP 337
1906 September 15 Gander Frank m 32 St John St 15 OTP
1937 July 21 Gander George m 5 Park Cottages 76 OTP
1845 June 22 Gander Harriet f St Johns St 35 OTP 309
1861 March 18 Gander Henry m 81
1872 August 27 Gander Henry m 67 309
1920 December 11 Gander Henry m 20 Brook St 66 OTP
1903 June 10 Gander Jane f 75 OTP
1923 October 6 Gander Lucy Ann f 33 St Johns St 62 OTP
1853 April 14 Gander Martha f 66 Wife, Married carriers Wife St John St Tarne, Oxfordshire
1879 December 8 Gander Martha f 0.3 OTP
1864 February 7 Gander Mary f 7
1928 May 26 Gander Mary f 5 Park Cottages 63 OTP
1902 February 22 Gander Minnie f 14 OTP
1886 January 30 Gander Thomas m 56 OTP
As you can see, four of them have memorial stones No 309; 337; 415 & 556 - I have transcribed the details and taken photographs of all those memorials and would provide details if they are related to you (Sub Castro has 800 memorials still standing)
Chris in 1066
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MEC,
You are not the first that I have met from Charles and Lucy Ann Gander's line. Tell me more, please. I can, probably fill you in on some info, as well.
Mike
Chris,
Thank you for that info. I am in the process of digesting all but, from what I can see, those markers would not be of my DIRECT line. They are, however, from one of the "off-shoots". I will get back to you on the photos and details. Thanks again,
Mike
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
Harper, Kent, Somerset
Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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Chris in 1066 Land,
I noticed that on another thread, you had mentioned that you had a book on Quarter Sessions in Lewes in the early to mid 1800s. Would there, by chance, be any mention of my Gander lot, (i.e. Henry, Charles, George, Richard, William, John, Thomas or Edward) between 1835 and 1841? I do know that Henry and Charles were "transported for life" and I am almost sure that there would be mention of George, as well. These are all sons of Henry and Martha Gander. I also am sure that George was not transported as he is buried about a half a mile from where I sit right now!
Thank you, in advance. 
Mike (in Niagara).
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
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Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Mike
Just had a look on the quarter session records and it would appear that there are some 19 entries with Gander as the convict - but surprisingly, there are several Gander victims as well.
Well type them all out and post them later
Chris in 1066
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Mike
Just spotted theses transportations from Lewes Assizes
GANDER Charles, 21, Kingston - 15yrs. Ref: QR/862 - 1839 July
GANDER George, 60, labourer, Herstmonceux - 7yrs. Ref: QR/970 - 1853 Feb
GANDER George, Herstmonceux - 7yrs. Ref: QR/851 - 1838 Feb
GANDER Henry, 19, Lewes – life. Ref: QR/819 - 1834 Jan
The reference number will enable you to get more details from the East Susex Record Office in the Maltings, Lewes
ESRO - http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/localandfamilyhistory/esro/collections/a2a.htm
Hope it helps
Chris in 1066
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Chris,
Thank you, I will check that web site. Of the ones listed above, Henry, 19, Lewes, is my GX3 Uncle. While in Hobart, he married a Sarah Smart. His brother, Charles, died shortly after arriving in Hobart in 1841. (They were not transported together).
Family lore has it that my GX2 Grandfather, George Gander, was involved in a riot on one of the Lewes streets on or about Guy Fawkes Day. (It seems that I have another reason to "Please remember the 5th of November", lol).
Thanks,
Mike (in Niagara)
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
Harper, Kent, Somerset
Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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Hi again
Here are a list of your criminal ancestors with the GANDER surname from the Quarter Session records. You will notice that most of them are situated in Hurstmonceux which is about midway between Hastings and Lewes.
Also mentioned is Kingston, Hellingly and Lewes which are both within a few miles of Hurstmonceux. The furthest distance entry is Hurstpeirpoint.
The list gives Name, Age, Occupation, Location, Year, Quarter Session Number and finally the Victims Name.
They are listed in DATE order
Gander Henry, 36, ……., ……., 1822, 771, ….
Gander Charles, 28, Labourer, Herstmonceux, 1822, 773, Gibbs Thomas John
Gander Charles, 45, ………., …………., 1827, 790, Gillon William Dacon
Gander George, 35, Labourer, Herstmonceux, 1830, 805, Terry Ann
Gander George, 35, Labourer, Herstmonceux, 1833, 815, Everest James
Gander Henry, 19, Labourer, ….., 1833, 818, Grinstead William
Gander Henry, 19, Labourer, St Annes, Lewes, 1834, 819, Back Richard
Gander Charles, 19, Labourer, Lewes St Michael, 1837, 842, Whitcher Charles (His Master)
Gander George, 45, Labourer, Herstmonceux, 1838, 851, Arkcoll Thomas
Gander George, 16, Labourer, Lewes, 1839, 859, Davey Henry
Gander Richard, 13, Labourer, Lewes, 1839, 859, Davey Henry
Gander Charles, 21, Labourer, Kingston, 1839, 862, Rogers Henry
Gander Charles, 55, Labourer, Herstmonceux, 1843, 890, Taylor Ed
Gander John, 45, Labourer, Hurstpeirpoint, 1843, 890, Starley J
Gander Jesse, 20, Labourer, Hurstmonceux, 1844, 905, Everest Mary
Gander Harriett,22, Single, Hellingly, 1848, 933, Kenward E
Gander William, 28, Labourer, Hurstmonceux, 1848, 933, …..
Gander William, 32, Baker, Hurstmonceux, 1852, 962, Allfrey W
Gander George, 60, Labourer, Hurstmonceux, 1853, 970, Venables Rev. E
Hope the above is of use to you
Chris in 1066
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Thank you, Chris. That is quite interesting. That whole area seemed to be a hot bed of "outlaw" Ganders, although, only the 4 mentioned in Lewes are mine. The family actually settled in Lewes after 1817. The father came from Cranleigh, Surrey and the mother from Oxfordshire. The four that you show in Lewes are 4 of the eight brothers.
Mike (in Niagara)
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Gander, Surrey and Sussex
Harper, Kent, Somerset
Eastes, Kent
Harris, Wales, Newfoundland, Bristol
Brennan, County Cork
Davis, County Armagh
Widdis, Ireland
McNevin, Argylshire
Capen, Dorset, Mass, Vermont, NB,
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