Mickledore
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My 85 year old Mum is trying to unravel the mystery of the maternal side of her family.
She was a Lewin from Ampthill.
Her mother was Annie Laura Georgina Pfau.
In the 1901 Census, Annie's mother - also Annie - was listed as a Charwoman living with her two children, Percy and Annie. Her marital status was given as "Married" as opposed to "Widowed" - but there is no sign of a husband. Indeed there is no male Pfau listed in the 1901 Census - anywhere in the country - who could be the missing spouse.
Mum says that her maternal grandfather was never mentioned in the family.
It's a black hole ... and any suggestions anyone has would be very welcome.
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bedfordshire boy
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Welcome to Rootschat
I think I would start with the birth certs of Percy and Annie, from which you should get their father's name. That at least should get you over the first hurdle as to whether there really was a husband.
Percy was said to be born in Islington. There was another Pfau family there too - Edward 27 born Islington, with wife and daughter both named Bertha.
I'll see if I can find any of them in earlier censuses - Pfau has endless possibilities for enumeration and transcription errors!
If you check http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl you'll find both Annie's and Percy's births registered - follow the links and you can order a birth certificate online.
Regards
David
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Gosh ... That was prompt. Thank you. 
I'm a complete amateur at this ... as you can probably tell. 
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Thanks again ... I've ordered a copy of my Grandmother's birth certificate, which will hopefully shed some light.
Moira
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Hi Moira ...welcome to Rootschat..
I have had a look at listed marriages for the name Pfau. One that is possible..
Is Charles Bernhard Pfau to Annie Chandler in Shoreditch in 1884 Q3
vol 1c page 268.
As I said though possible not certain once you have the certificates it will be clearer.
Tazzie
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Tazzie ... You may have found it!
Mum remembers Chandler as a family name somewhere on her mother's side ...
I'll let you know what the certificate reveals.
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The birth certificate has arrived .... and Tazzie - you were spot on. Charles Bernard Pfau (no "h" in Bernard on the certificate) was indeed my mother's errant maternal grandfather. I wonder where he went? I don't think there's any sign of him in any subsequent Census ...
We now have another wee mystery, as well. Mum says that her mother had a brother who - like the wandering Charles - was never mentioned. I've found a few candidates amongst the Pfaus of London ... but I'm not sure which, if any of them, could be the culprit.
Anyway ... thank you for all of your help. It's much appreciated.
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bedfordshire boy
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The only Pfau brother of Annie was Percy, according to the census - was he the errant one?
Your next step should be to get the 1884 marriage cert which will give you fathers' names.
Regards
David
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Hi Mickledore....
Pleased to have helped. At the end of the day it still pays to back it all up with certificates.
As you say no show on Charles after the marriage or before, but as David says the next step is the wedding cert with fathers details for both.
Tazzie
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Just to add ....
in 1881 there is a Charles PFAN b Holstein Germany
He is a boot maker age 16 RG11/0255 F18 P29.
Can anyone view the original?
The family are at 10 Little Cross St last 3 children b Islington.
Tazzie
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Image is clearly PFAU - 3 youngest born Islington are Arnold, Augustus & Bertha. Older dau Minnie born 'London' Middx.
Head of family Karl, wife Catherine
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I've been looking at this family in 1891 - Carl had died in 1887 aged 50, but apart from Oliver Pfau, Catherine, Bertha and August are indexed as Green! (don't ask - I've put in corrections). I wondered if Charles might have been the product of a first marriage, as Charles/Carl and Catherine only appear to have married in 1877?
David
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The full 1891 entry, which I think is very muddled
105 Essex Rd, Islington
Ellen Green head widow 74 cook b Teddington Middx
Maria North grand dau 22 n Essex Rd Islington
Catherine Pfau wife widow 56 Pew opener b Ahrensberg Holstein
August Pfau son single 17 telegraph messenger b 17 Newhall St, Islington
Bertha Pfau dau 10 b 10 Little Goss St, Islington
Oliver Pfau grandchild 6 b Hoxton London
Looking at the 1881 (good find Tazzie!) it looks as though the first 2 children, Charles 16 and Mary 13, who were born in Germany and the children down to August(us) born in London were from Karl's first marriage, he then married Catherine Woelken at Shoreditch in the Dec quarter 1877 and produced more children in London, and then died in 1887. But I can't see the death of a first wife.
Explains why we couldn't find Charles Bernhard's birth on the GRO!
In 1901 Annie Pfau age 38 was living in Russell St, Bedford. In 1871 also living in Russell St Bedford was George and Elizabeth Chandler along with daughter Anne age 8. No christening on the IGI though. 2 births on FreeBMD in Bedford in 1863 - March Anne Chandler, and Dec Ann Elizabeth Denton Chandler. Elizabeth Chandler appears to have been Elizabeth Armstrong, so I think I fancy the March 1863 entry.
The question remains: who in 1901 was Edward Pfau, living in Islington, age 27 born Islington? Could the born Islington be wrong and he's another son by the first marriage? But he was a postman, not a cobbler
David
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