Ceeoh
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I have recently received an 1871 census image which shows my g-grandparents in Lower Feversham Street Middlesbrough had lodgers who were "perfoming singers".
Does anyone know of a music hall or theatre in that era? Is there any way of finding old programmes or records (written) of performers?
Ceeoh
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RuthieB
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Could well be the Empire Theatre in Corporation Road - still exists as a night club I think; I imagine the Middlesbrough Archives service has programmes and so forth
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Ceeoh
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Thanks RuthieB, yes I think the Empire does still exist, sadly no longer a theatre, however, I have received today from a relative researching the same family, copy of part of an old map of Middlesbrough, showing the Oxford Music Hall in Lower Feversham Street - literally next door to our ancestors. New one on me, never knew there was a music hall in Old Middlesbrough.
Thanks for the tip, I'll try the archive for programmes.
Regards
Ceeoh
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Ceeoh
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Hi Pels
Very many thanks - what a great site. Led me off in all directions to various places visited in the past.
I wonder where the Prince of Wales Music Hall was? Must also have been in Old Middlesbrough somewhere.
From an entry on the census this has started me on a new road altogether.
Definitely deserves a query at Teesside Archive!
Regards
Ceeoh
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Nutty1966
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Just had a quick look and found this
George Hearse. Came to Middlesbrough from South Wales in 1850 to work at Bolckow and Vaughan. Built a pub, became landlord and then later owned The Prince of Wales Music Hall and several farms. He was landlord owner of 17 pubs including the Cannon, Palmerston and Gladstone. He died in 1909
I think it may have been in Lord Street the music hall? 
Jane
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Ceeoh
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Many thanks Jane, old time music hall and public houses - conjures quite a picture in one's mind.
There were at one time, 61 public houses in old Middlesbrough. Bridge Street West/East to the river.
Will have a look on the map for Lord Street, the Prince of Wales Music Hall may be shown.
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Ceeoh
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Bolckow
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The Oxford Palace of Vaireites was in Rostock Terrace, Lower Feversham Street, St. Hilda's, Middlesbrough. The owner was Cllr Richard Weighell a Mayor of the town and also breeder of racehorses.
Images of the music hall outside and inside are on a display panel at the Dorman Museum in Middlesbrough. want to know any more drop me a line
Ian
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Ceeoh
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Hi Ian
Very many thanks for extra info. You are the first person who has been able to pinpoint Rostock Terrace for me!!
The Gendle side of the family (and I think the Hall family) lived in Lower East Street, Feversham Street, Lower Feversham Street, and Rostock Terrace and until now no-one could tell me where Rostock Terrace was. It doesn't appear on any maps I have and M'bro Archive couldn't help.
I wonder if the Dorman Museum would have any pictures from the display panel (music hall images)?
My g-granparents Edward and Margaret (nee Hall) Gendle had the "performing singers" lodging with them 1871.
Delighted to have your mail. Many thanks
Margaret
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Ceeoh
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Hi Ian
Should have asked you - do you know if the Dorman Museum has an e mail and/or website? I'm not in the U.K. so cannot go there myself.
Regards
Margaret
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miagre1
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Hi Margaret,
I think the Oxford eventually became the Joe Walton' boys club after it moved from the original two cottages. (Prior to general demolition of the area and relocation of the remaining residents.)
One of my ancestors had a lodging house at number 44 Lower Feversham Street (1881) She took in 'Theatricals' according to my Grandmother.
I have a photo somewhere in my collection of the Oxford building. I will look it up.
Try "Googling" "Live search maps" (Microsoft) One of the original buildings seems to remain, although I am not sure which one it is.
George
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Ceeoh
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Hi George
That's very interesting - something I didn't know, although I knew about the Joe Walton's Boys Club.
Unfortunately the 1871 doesn't give the number in Lower Feversham Street where the Gendle family lived
Thanks for the tip "Live search maps", last time I visited "old" Middlesbrough the place was in ruins, just a plaque where St Hilda's had been with the inscription scratched off - by vandals no doubt!
If Ian (above) is still following this thread - after I replied to you I googled the Dorman Musem and found some very interesting information and contact details.
Thanks George, love to see the picture if you still have it.
Many thanks for your input
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Margaret
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miagre1
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Hi Margaret,
Godfrey map 1913 shows The Oxford opposite the end of Tyne St.
The surviving building on Live search map is most likely the Oxford with a newer facade. There was no building of that size in the near vacinity..
Here is the photo anyway.
George
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Ceeoh
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Fantastic - many thanks George.
Regards
Margaret
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Bolckow
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Dorman has a website
www.dormanmuseum.co.uk
If you email the museum from the website and mark the e-mail for my attention I can send the images of the exterior and interior to you, I will also try and add low resolution versions here next week,
regards,
Ian Stubbs
Assistant Curator
Dorman Museum
Middlesbrough
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