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Topic: Crossmolina Chruch Records (Read 7225 times)
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cully194
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Thanks so much for your very generous offer! It is through the kindness of people like you that I have found that my Corcorans came from Crossmolina Parish, Co. Mayo. Unfortunately, they started to immigrate to the Province of Quebec in Canada around 1817, and from there successive generations migrated to other parts of Canada and the US. Your records don't cover that period, but I will post what I do know in the hope that somebody from the same line might see it. I expect that some family members stayed behind in Ireland. In particular, there was a son named Matt who studied at Apothecary Hall and worked at a pharmacy in Castlebar in the early 1800s.
Several of my Corcorans worked for the Hudson Bay Company in Canada starting in 1817.
I have an unknown Corcoran male born around 1725. He had two sons, Edward and John. I believe that Edward immigrated to the US. John was born around 1755 and married Bridget Edwards. Their known children born in Ireland are:
Bridget, who married Walter Burke
Richard (b. 1775), who married Margaret Nash
James (b. 1778), who married Bridget (b. 1791). These are my GGGG Grandparents.
Patrick (b. 1787), who married Genvieve Gagnon in Canada
Elizabeth (b. 1788), who married Michael Rowan (b. 1778) - several children born in Ireland
John (b. 1791)
Thomas (b. 1794), who married Charlotte Sophia Sutherland (b. 1799) in Canada
Edward (b. 1799), who married Julia Cassidy (b. 1807) in Canada
James and Bridget had the following children born in Ireland:
Mary (b. 1808)
John (b. 1811)
Luke (b. 1812)
Elizabeth (b. 1817)
Bridget (b. 1825)
Successive children of James and Bridget were born in Canada - Annie, Marie and James.
Can anybody tell me what villages comprised Crossmolina Parish in the late 1700s?
I would love to hear from anybody connected to this family and would be happy to share any information that I have.
Nicole
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Diski
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Hi Dianne,Thanks for shareing you information.I have people in Ballysakerry but they are not easy to find and someone told me to try Crossmolina.The name is Samuel Aikins/Ekins,he married Elizabeth Birch around 1800/1812,his son James was born 1812 he married Catherine Little around 1829 as there son James born 1830Tey shifted to Scotland around 1843 there were other children ive found on thecencus,Hannah 1833,Ann,1837,Betsy 1841,Margaret 1843.Im pretty sure Samuel stayed in Mayo.I would be very grateful for your help or contacts you may have Thanks Osca.
Hi Osca, I am very sorry its taken so very long to get back to you- computer problems, vacations, new computer adjustments...
So, I have looked in my Catholic records and found NONE.
But I do have Church of Ireland records for Crossmolina that show several Erwin Ekin ect, but none with any of the given names you gave me. The film I got this from is from LDS # 897365- I only copied the Crossmolina records but most likely there are many other parishes on the reel.
Sorry I couldnt help!
Diski
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Osca
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Hi Diski,Thanks for the reply and although we found nothing,thank you for looking for me.I will continue to try to find them.Osca
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aderyn
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Hello Diski,
I wonder if you could help me find my 2xgreat grandparents, they were from Co.Mayo but don't know what parish.
John McEllin and his wife Margaret.
They were living in Staffordshire in 1843 as their first child was born there.
He was a Rag and Bone man by trade.
Thank you for your kind offer hope you are successful.
Ange.
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Ali Race
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Hi Diski
Not used boards before so I hope this finds you OK!
Your offer is extremely generous and of great interest to me. I wonder if you could add to that i have collected to date?
Mother-in-law has a grandfather gone missing (family Skeleton?). I've done what I can and think I have traced his birth and that of a sister they never knew he had. I am trying to get as much as I can before having to come over to search locally.
Person of interest Duncan William Ferguson b. 28 Dec 1864 to Murdoch(k) Ferguson and Sarah Whitty (Whitby) Crossmolina
if we can get more on Father would be good but also sister who may have died young:
Elizabeth Ferguson b. 13 Nov 1866 Crossmolina.
Think Murdock(h) was gardener.
DW Ferguson married in Belfast 1893 to Martha McRoberts
Many thanks in anticipation.
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Diski
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Hi there,
I only have ONE Ferguson:
Jun 1 1838 John, born to Patrick Ferguson and Catherine Corcoran, residence is Crossmolina town. Witness were Alex ?? and Sarah Barrett
I had NO Whittly or Whittby or McRoberts surnames either. No Murdock or Duncans either.
Personally, the Whittby sounds like a Church or Ireland name. If you already KNOW they came from Crossmolina, I would look into other denominations such as the Church of Ireland records. I have Church of Ireland, but only a few and they are for early 1800s. I have no McRoberts, Whitby ect, and one Ferguson for COI:
Sept 13 1814, Marriage of Francis Ferguson and Sarah Huston of Ballina and Stonehall (Foxford Parish?).
The fact that they married in Belfast also suggests COI roots, not catholic. Of coarse, I could be wrong, but thats where I would be looking.
The Crossmolina DISTRICT, which is what is frequently seen in the Indexes, does not mean they were born in the Parish or town of Crossmolina-the district covers several parishes. Church of Ireland districts are no the same as the Roman Cath districts either!
The North Mayo site may have other church records-or more complete catholic records than what I have-for a fee they will do a search of there computerised records. Might be worth it to have them do a search for one of them-hopefully it with show what parishes they came from, and that will help you in your future research.
Good Luck Ali!
http://mayo.irish-roots.net/
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Diski
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I know the author Joe from our frequent exchanges of information on our individual families- his work is excellent and trustworthy.
Since I dont see where it states his sources, it could be from the Birth records from Civil Registration, or from the CD of Index of Births for the years covering 1864-1867 in Ireland. I suspect that his list is from the Index of births, which is not limited to Catholics only, as one would expect in a Catholic Church Register. I'm fairly certain his reference to Crossmolina means the Registration DISTRICT of Crossmolina, not the parish itself.
Try this link for a map of the Civil parishes are, and search the surrounding parishes to find your Fergusons. http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Mayo/mayocp.html
Diane
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samiie
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for your offer to look up records for Crossmolina. I believe my great,great,great grandmother, Jane Corcoran was born in Crossmolina in 1820. She married John Fleming, and when he died, moved with her three children to the US. They were Roman Catholic. The children's names were: Anthony, John, and Mary (who married John Glynn from Galway.)
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Diski
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Hi Samiie,
You didn't specify what records you are requesting-Janes birth, the childrens births?, marriage info??
As I stated in my original post, I dont want to waste my time giving you information you already HAVE. I want to give you NEW info that will benefit you.
So clarify for me please,
Thanks, Diane
PS- When did John Flemming die? Do you know the townland by chance? Never hurts to ask 
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samiie
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The information I have on this family is very limited.
Birth of Jane Corcoran b. 1820, possibly in Crossmolina.
Birth of John Fleming b. about 1820, possibly in Crossmolina.
Marriage of John and Jane in Crossmolina. Blacksmith
Birth of Anthony Fleming b. Dec. 1842. Emigrated to USA in 1861 or 1865.
Birth of Mary Fleming May 1852. (d.o.b. varies from 1840 to 1852 in various documents)
Birth of John Fleming, son, date unknown.
I do not know when John (senior) died or where.
Thanks again for your efforts.
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Diski
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Hi Samiie,
I have the following for you:
Marriage of John Flemming and JEAN Corcoran in 1833. Residence was Enaghbeg.
Son, John born 12 Aug 1833. Witnesses were William Flemming and Betty Gultry/Godfrey.
A child born (couldn't read the name) abt Sept 24 1846. One column was cut off so the birth or christening could be the date given here. Male witness could not be read, female witness was Mary Flemming.
In 1833, the Tithe has a James, William and John Flemming in seperate homes in EnaghMORE, under subdivision called Dublin. There is also a holding under Enaghmore called Corkron (Corcoran varient) Holding, although there were no Corkron or Corcorans (or Flemmings) on the land! Enaghbeg South had a Patrick Flemming.
I am in the very slow process of trying to correct errors and add missing info in the database, but it is very slow going. You can request again in a few months to see if I have moore for you- seems like there should be more children born to them by.
Diane
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samiie
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Thank you, Diane, for looking up the Fleming/Corcoran families. 1833 seems a little early for my Jane Corcoran/John Fleming marriage. Census records in the US indicate Jane was born in 1820. If it is Jane, can you tell which church this wedding took place in? I am assuming the children were baptized in the same church.
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Diski
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It would be called St Tiernans I believe. The film does not state the church. Also, there were "chapels" that could have been filmed together in the PARISH of Crossmolina film. There is a church in Crossmolina that is called St Tiernan today, but the original one was either replaced, or repaired. I was there for my Sweeney reunion in 2005 and is very beautiful with lots of stained glass. If you do a google search you should find a photo on line of the present day church.
In 1820, there was no catholic church since it was illegal/against the law to be catholic. Catholic Emancipation occured abt 1833, and thats when the churches were being built. There are no Catholic records before 1830-baptisms and marriages were done on the sly.
As for birth years and ages, as well as spellings of surnames and townland,you should be very open minded. Even in 1911 the ages were 10 years off! They had no reason to know the actual birthdate until the 1900s when the Old Age Pension was put into effect. Sometimes they would hide there age for various reasons as well.
Admittedly, being a 13 yr old bride is a bit young, but if she became pregnant prior to marriage- they would have married. The age was most likely a guestimate so its likely she was 15 or so.
Diane/Diski
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