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Marriage Records
« on: Sunday 08 April 07 08:18 BST (UK) »

I am trying to find the marriage record of my great grandparents. Their names are John William and Llyia Bailey. They lived in Salford and I think they were married at St. Stephen's church Salford.
I am trying to find Llyia'a maiden name.
Can anybody help me please. Huh
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 April 07 08:47 BST (UK) »



    Hi.....


What sort of time scale are we looking at ...it will narrow the search..

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 April 07 08:52 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the reply.
John Bailey was born 1858-1860 and Llyia was born 1860 so if they got married when they were youngish I suppose we are looking around the 1880's mark, give or take a couple years.
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 April 07 09:06 BST (UK) »




  Hi ...on the index its not showing up at first glance .

  Do you have them on a census or when was first child born.  There is only 1 Llyia Bailey on 1901 b Sheffield on index . Do you have the family group?

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 April 07 09:09 BST (UK) »

Hi
Yes I have them on the 1901 England Census.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 April 07 09:13 BST (UK) »




   I haven't got access to the full census so can you put it on here and I will look for the marriage....Llyia looks to be a "pet" name so I would need to look at the full GRO quarter by quarter to narrow it down .

                   Thanks

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 April 07 09:19 BST (UK) »

In 1891 her name is listed as Elizabeth and in 1881 as Eliza and her eldest daughter is Elizabeth so that is probably her actual name. She might have married in Sheffield as that is her birthplace and she went back there for the birth of child Henry born 1880 in Sheffield. Her eldest child was born in Salford in approx 1878

I can only find 2 possibilities at the moment
John Bailey and Eliza Dawson mar qtr 1878 8d 102 greater manchester
OR
John Bailey and Eliza Lessiter Buxton jun qtr 1878 9c 606 Sheffield Yorkshire

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 April 07 09:28 BST (UK) »

Maybe look for the birth certificate of one of the children as that will list mothers maiden name. When asking for certificate you can ask them to confirm if parents names are John and Elizabeth before paying for full certificate.

Elizabeth Bailey jun qtr 1878 salford 8d 104a

Ethel Bailey mar qtr 1888 salford 8d 112

Albert Bailey jun qtr 1890 salford 8d 92

Henry Bailey mar qtr 1880 sheffield yorkshire 9c 409

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Do you want 1891 and 1881 details by the way?
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 April 07 10:32 BST (UK) »

On searching actual entries in birth registers via ancestry I can only find a few likely entries. Assuming that 1860 is the correct birth year for Llyia/Elizabeth/Eliza and using birth of eldest child as reference point then she probably married between 1876 (age 16) and jun qtr 1878 (Elizabeths birth)

There are marriages for 3 John Baileys in Manchester 1 in Sheffield and only 1 in Salford.

The one in Salford has the same GRO ref as previously posted 8d 102 mar qtr 1878
John Bailey and Eliza Dawson so this a good possibilty

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 April 07 10:36 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much. I can't tell you how pleased I am.
My husband can have some dinner now.
Once again
Thanks
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 April 07 11:45 BST (UK) »

I would still go down the route of getting a birth certificate to be sure as I could be sending you on a wild goose chase.  Roll Eyes

If you want the details of 1891 and 1881 censuses let me know.

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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 April 07 15:02 BST (UK) »

Yes please
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 April 07 15:56 BST (UK) »

1891 RG12/3218 folio 76 pg31
6 Bedford St Salford

John Bailey head 41 labourer mechanics? bSalford
Elizabeth Bailey wife 41 bSheffield
Elizabeth Bailey daur 12 scholar bSalford
Henry Bailey son 11 scholar bSheffield
Ethel Bailey daur 3 bSalford
Albert Bailey son 1 bSalford
Margaret McBride lodger 24 unm drawing tenter in card room?

just in case they are related next door but one at 2 Bedford St are the following
Daniel Bailey head 72  born manchester
helen Bailey wife 72 born manchester
William Griffiths grandson 16  labourer in Bolt works born Salford
Lynsie? Griffiths granddaur 18 cotton mill operator born Salford

1881 RG11/3692 folio 34 pg14
62 St Simon? Street Salford

John Bailey head 22 labourer Lancs Salford
Eliza Bailey wife 21 Yorkshire Sheffield
Elizabeth Bailey daur 3 Lancs Salford
Henry Bailey son 1 Yorkshire Sheffield
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 April 07 01:34 BST (UK) »

 Once Again
Thank you so much.
regards
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Re: Marriage Records
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 April 07 01:50 BST (UK) »

If you send off for the certificate and verify Eliza Dawson is the correct one post agin and I can look up earlier censuses with her parents on I have had a quick look but until you know for definite there is not much use in further searching.
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Searching in Liverpool, Shropshire, London, Worcester and Holywell, Stafford and Cheshire.  (and eventually in Ireland) :-)
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