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*Completed*FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« on: Tuesday 10 April 07 18:02 BST (UK) »

Can anyone help me with information about the the family (husband or  children?) of Theodosia FROOM from Wilton?

Here she is in the 1841 Census:

Theodosia Froom 60 ind not born in county
William Young 25 superintendent of police  not born in county
Louisa Loxley 55 f/s not born in county
Thomas Abrahams 15 m/s born in county
The Square Wilton Wilts
HO107 1167/15 fol 22 p 14

The above William YOUNG (whose middle name was Wadham) subsequently married someone named Mary and they had at least five children including an Edward Frome YOUNG. I am therefore inclined to the view that maybe his wife was Mary FROME or FROOM, but I haven't found any evidence yet.

Can anyone confirm or refute this marriage, probably in Wiltshire, and can they identify where Theodosia FROOM came from, and where she went to?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 April 07 21:37 BST (UK) »

The eldest child on the 1851 census was Frederick William aged 5 born Salisbury.

Births Sep 1845   
Young  Frederick William    Alderbury  8 236

Marriage
Sept quarter 1844
Alderbury
volume 8 page 385
William Wadham Young

Not a well covered quarter on FreeBMD. Only name at that reference so far

Marriages Sep 1844   
ANDREWS  Mary    Alderbury  8 385

No Froom, Frome or Froome entry cross references on the GRO index.

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 April 07 21:44 BST (UK) »

There is a death FreeBMD
transcribed as
Theodossa Frome
Mar qtr 1851
Southampton
Volume 7
Page 14[79]

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 April 07 22:20 BST (UK) »

Hello Valda and Suzard,
there is another thread re this at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,226228.0.html

I got interested here- then saw that one and had a search around for the Fromes - I found something for 1851 re William's mother perhaps and her sisters but am stuck for 1841 to find out more about them. Looks like William is the Frome connection.
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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 April 07 22:24 BST (UK) »

Will of Theodosia Frome, Spinster of Wilton , Wiltshire 13 March 1851 PROB 11/2128

in fact two

Will of Theodosia Frome, Widow of Salisbury , Wiltshire 03 April 1830 PROB 11/1769

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 April 07 22:31 BST (UK) »

These are both wonderful bits of detective work; thank you.

I was beginning to think I'd never find the marriage for William Young, so now the search is on for his wife. It may well be the Mary Andrews that appears on the same page above.

Finding Theodosia's burial is also a great plus, although it's a pity she didn't hang on until after the 1851 Census! It is almost certainly her mother, also named Theodosia, who died in 1830. The other thread, referred to above, shows that Theodosia's husband was Thomas FROME, so now I have a good linkage to William Wadham YOUNG through his mother's family.

I really appreciate your wonderful help with this tricky enquiry.

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 April 07 08:16 BST (UK) »

From Heywood's information the two Fro(o)mes on the 1851 census Dorothy and Susan were in Littleham Devon on the 1841 census. Theodosia Mills was with her husband William in Greenwich. He was something to do with the East India Company.
That makes trying to find a Jane Young on the 1841 census much more tricky without the more distinctive names in the household.

Dorothy Frome also left a PCC will

Will of Dorothy Frome, Spinster of Southampton , Hampshire 07 April 1856 PROB 11/2230

Pallots marriage index verifys the 1810 marriage
Jane Froome
John Young 
1810
Salisbury Cathedral

and also gives

Eliza Froome
Rev,Benjn Churchill 
1809
Salisbury Cathedral

There is also a Theodosia Frome aged 40 on the Guernsey census - not born Guernsey - so they get about a bit.

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 April 07 08:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Valda

Following last night's discovery that John YOUNG was a captain in the 76th Regiment when he married, and indeed that the Bondsman was Rev Benjamin Churchill (Adminstration WIL Source DLB Date 1810 Mar 19 Groom John YOUNG aged 35 occupation captain residing at –, – status bac notes 76 Regt of Foot Bride Jane FROME aged 25 residing at Salisbury Close, WIL status sp notes – Bondsmen CHURCHILL Benj,clerk,Queen's Coll,Oxford), I spent some time this morning looking at the London Gazette, and found the following:

34th Regiment of Foot, Lieutenant John Young, from the 8th Light Dragoons, to be Captain of a Company, by Purchase, vice Bull, resigned.
(London Gazette Issue 15943 published on the 5 August 1806. Page 3 of 32)

76th Ditto [i.e, Regiment of Foot].
To be Captains of Companies,
Lieutenant Edward Marston, without Purchase, vice Jacobs, promoted in the 30th Foot.
Lieutenant John Munro Sinclair, without Purchase.
Lieutenant and Adjutant A. Fraser, vice Swetnam, deceased.
Lieutenant George Edward Pratt Barlow, from the 8th Light Dragoons, by Purchase, vice Sinclair, who retires.
Captain John Young, from the 34th Foot, vice Barlow, who exchanges.
(London Gazette Issue 15948 published on the 23 August 1806. Page 2 of 12)

STAFF
Major Charles Broke, from the 5th: Foot, to be Permanent Adjutant Quarter-Master-General, vice Bathurst, who exchanges.
Captain John Young, from the 76th Foot, to be Staff. Captain at the Army Depot in the Isle of Wight, vice Armstrong, who exchanges.
(London Gazette Issue 16455 published on the 12 February 1811. Page 12 of 28)

So it appears that John YOUNG was born about 1775, that he joined the 8th Dragoons, was promoted to Captain in the 34th Regiment of Foot in 1806, and shortly after, he moved to the 76th Regiment of Foot. In 1811, the year after his marriage, he moved to the Isle of Wight with the Army.

I have also found a will for a Captain John Young on half pay who died in Southampton in 1823, so it may be that Jane was widowed for a long time.

But she should be somewhere in the 1841 census.

I really appreciate your help with all this; it's amazing how the story is coming together.

Best wishes

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 April 07 21:41 BST (UK) »

A possible PCC will

Will of Reverend Benjamin Churchill of Honfleur , France 11 August 1854 PROB 11/2195

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Re: FROOM or FROME family in Wiltshire
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 April 07 07:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Valda

Many thanks for this. Interestingly, in the 1851 Census, there is a niece in the household of William Wadham YOUNG named Theodosia Jane MILLS, born in France. I couldn't previously read the place, but now I see it says Honfleur! So presumably her mother (Theodosia MILLS nee FROME) was visiting her Aunt (Eliza CHURCHILL nee FROME) and that's why she was born in France!

I also wanted to tell you that ANDREWS is looking like the name of William YOUNG's wife in 1844. His father (John YOUNG) left a will in which he nominated his cousin Dr William ANDREWS of Salisbury, Wiltshire as a Trustee and Executor. So it looks probable that there is a family connection there as well.

Kind regards and thanks for all your help.

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