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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 April 07 22:32 BST (UK) »

This site has maps of the counties in Ontario.

http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/

Click on search, and you will see "Maps". If you click on that you will then see the counties. You can search by county, township or town and it will show the map.

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 April 07 08:15 BST (UK) »


Thanks Janice- will try to print off maps of the various areas I now seem to be involved in.

That's the site I think I used a while back when checking out landholdings of various people in Ontario- the generation of the Humphries/joyce family that preceeded those about whom i am now enquiring.
Appreciate your help.

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 April 07 17:29 BST (UK) »

Yes, Charlotte, you can just put the surname in also for a search and it will show you the tract of land owned by an ancestor, then hit locate on map and it will show you where it was...enlarge to view the actual section of land, it's shape, and your ancestor's name ...and also sometimes the land around it may belong to another that you may recognize...Very nice visual online feature to have...! J.J.

the left enlarged image doesn't come up for me, anymore, for some reason, must be my browser again... Tongue Roll Eyes
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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #18 on: Monday 16 April 07 04:50 BST (UK) »

 Hi JJ,
The map  site is good- have printed off the 1880s map of Ontario with the counties. That Dundas and Grenville are adjacent makes sense of change of location of family members- it is all close together.

Am I correct in thinking that the large subdivisions of a Co. are what is called a Twp? eg in Dundas Co there are 4 sections shown on the Dundas Co map:- Mountain, Winchester, Matilda, Williamsburgh.These 4 are called TWPs? Do I have the terminology correct?
Within the TWp there are obviously towns-e g North Mountain- are these just called towns?

Will check out the site  and see if my SUFFELs  owned any land around Mountain, as you suggested might be worth doing. Thanks for that.

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 April 07 05:03 BST (UK) »

 JJ,
My question to you on terminology has just been answered by the dialogue boxes when I went to the McGill site and searched for "People".  Dundas Co, Mountain Twp, and then towns.   but only two towns are on offer- Aultsville and Inkerman.  Maybe they haven't got around to digitalizing the other towns.
So I didn't find any reference there to my lot but at least I now have a bit more knowldge on the terminology.
Thanks,
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GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, BIGFORD, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #20 on: Monday 16 April 07 06:23 BST (UK) »

Some information on Township of Mountain, as well as other places within Dundas County.
http://www.library.cornwall.on.ca/New_DP/docs/Dundas.pdf

Map of Dundas County - Showing Townships & Towns
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/exhibits/maps/counties/dundas.htm

Other posts
http://www3.sympatico.ca/scott.naylor/SurnameInterestList.htm

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=sensato&id=I530

Cornwall Public Library (Photos of Mountain)
http://www.library.cornwall.on.ca/New_DP/index.php

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #21 on: Monday 16 April 07 06:36 BST (UK) »

You could try searching some of the directories for that area as well.

Canadian Directories (National Archives site)
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/canadiandirectories/index-e.html

Internet Archive - (search at top of page for Dundas County Directory. You can also search for Huron County Directory). You have to search manually, as it can't be searched the way it is copied)
http://www.archive.org/index.php

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #22 on: Monday 16 April 07 07:05 BST (UK) »

Some books from "Our Roots"

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=919726
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=2724
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=2899
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=4270

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #23 on: Monday 16 April 07 13:54 BST (UK) »

I always thought Twp was short for township.....Janice is it  Municipality then?
Guess I need a primer myself, Charlotte...
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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #24 on: Monday 16 April 07 14:28 BST (UK) »

Twp is short for township.  Municipality is I think a more modern term used by towns and more urban regions?  The layers of government in Ontario get a bit confusing, especially as towns grow bigger.  Historically, some townships had towns in them that were big enough to be run as a separate entity, so you had a town government operating within a township and a county.  Other townships were more rural and, while they did have several villages, did not have any settlements big enough to be incorporated as towns, so everything was run at the township level.  As towns and villages grow and actually mesh together with other nearby places and cross township boundaries, we are getting all sorts of wierd new amalgamated municipalities, like the "City of Kawartha Lakes", which is actually about 4 towns and all the rural areas in between them.

There is a good on-line exhibit at the Archives of Ontario that explains all the different kinds of divisions that have ben used in Ontario since it's creation, including the early Districts (pre-counties), the counties, and then the recent trends in amalgamation...

http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/exhibits/maps/index.html

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Re: JOHNSTONE, Greenhill/Lucknow Cemetery, Huron Co, Reference HU-3169 lookup please
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 01:35 BST (UK) »

Janice and MJP, Thanks for all that info.and the sources there.
  While I chase  all this down everything else on the agenda will have to wait.  Amazing what family history leads one into.
Thanks again  for you help- and now to some of the urls.

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GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, BIGFORD, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1808
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