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Topic: Hilland/ Devlin 1860,Whitehaven. (Read 690 times)
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edwardkenna
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Hello Fremund,it has certainly made me think about that which we take for granted now.When I thought about what had happened I realized that my ancestors would have been handed a piece of paper,marriage certificates and birth certificates which they probably couldn't read.Combined with the dialect as you say and the person who was writing the document it is easy to see how the differing spellings arise.However I often find myself wondering what the correct name is anyway but Hilland is a common name in County Antrim and Norway? . I do not know why the movement occurred but it appears to me that all the Devlins or Devlings moved to Durham.Joan if you read this, was Margaret Ann christened as a Devling or a Hillinge?Those "G's" really threw me.
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Ted
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edwardkenna
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Hello Joan,just to let you know that I have answered my own question.Margaret Ann was christened Devlin and born in Dec 1860.I wonder why?Is there a convention for dealing with children born out of wedlock?
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Ted.
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Jo3
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Hello Ted,
I'm not sure with children out of wedlock in the nineteenth century but I believe at some point it became necessary to have the alledged father's permission to give his surname to the child. I think some children were given the father's name as a middle name - certainly in my own tree one woman had four children who were given her "employer's" name as their middle name but she remained a housekeeper and single all her life. The boy eventually took his "father's" name but the girls kept her name. Maybe he only wanted a son and heir!
I think there was a lot more movement of families going with work than we imagine there would be at that time. Miner's especially, moved to where new coal was found and better security for longer. Most housing was tied though, so children had to work in the mines so that if anything happened to the husband the family still had a roof over their heads.
I'm pleased you found Margaret Ann, Ted - just let me know if there is anything else but it might be after New Year now. Best Wishes
Joan
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edwardkenna
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Hello Joan and thank you very much for your help.I have been struck by people's desire to help others and I it is reassuring to see that there is some kindness left in this country.I am now switching my search to Ireland to see whether I can find the Devlins and Hillands in Ireland but I don't hold out much hope.I suspect both the families left Ireland about the time of the potato famines in the 1840's.It struck me that when Margaret's father died,who would keep the house going.It is my belief now that the family went to live in Durham and Margaret Ann stayed with gran because Hugh's family in 1867 consisted of Hugh Jnr. and Margaret residing at Usworth,Co. Durham.You will see any responses if you look at the Co.Antrim web site.All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Ted in Anglesey.
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Jo3
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Hi Ted,
I've just seen that you are in Anglesey? Maybe I'll be able to ask a favour (after New Year)??
My grandfather came from Beaumaris, and though my Mum (almost 85yrs.) has kept a great deal of info. on close family it would be nice to get some data checked but please don't feel obliged to as I know not everyone is lucky enough to live only 1 mile from the local RO.
Also Thomas is not exactly a rare occurance in Wales!
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Joan
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edwardkenna
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Hello Joan,the local RO is about 14 miles from where I live.You are right that Thomas is not an uncommon name,neither is Jones,Hughes.Williams or Owen.Also I thought that I would just let you know that I believe the Devlin family turned up on the 1871 Durhan census at Lanchester which is very near to where the Hillands settled.Their ages are two years out but the name pattern fits.
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Ted.
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