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Topic: surname interest Chamberlains Barton Seagrave (Read 511 times)
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caron
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If you have any connections or information on the Chamberlains from Barton Seagrave please let me know,.
Abraham Chamberlain B 1806 Died 1866 Born Barton Seagrave
sons William, Robert, Susam Thomas, Eliza, Hannah, Marianne, Betsey, John and Henry. (born between 1830 and 1849 in Barton Seagrave)
Particularly interested in Hannah Chamberlain who married Henry Goddard from Redgrave Suffolk on 26/12/1870 at All Saints Islington London.
Look foward to hearing from you/
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Mayhew of Coddenham,, Rogers of Southwark, Green of Leighton Buzzard. Greens of Islington.Challis of Southwark, Goddard Islington/Redgrave, Chamberlain of Kettering, Price of St Pancras, Selman of Middlesex. Dench of Littleport. Curtis southwark/Bristol
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byron
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Hi caron,
Abraham son of William & Elizabeth Chamberlain bapt 10 August 1806
(Barton Seagrave parish register)
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byron
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caron
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Hi Byron. Thank you very much for finding the baptism of Abraham Chamberlain. I didnt have his exact date of birth or know who his parents were so this is great information.
I assume that you must have been looking at the Barton Seagrave parish records, if you dont mind if you do look at the parish records again for your own research would you be able to keep your eye out for any more possible brothers and sisters to Abraham Chamberlain, children of William and Elizabeth, or any information that you see on William and Elizabeth such as their marriage.
Unfortunately due to ill health I cannot get to see parish records myself, so your help has been very much appreciated.
Thank you so much
Caron
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Mayhew of Coddenham,, Rogers of Southwark, Green of Leighton Buzzard. Greens of Islington.Challis of Southwark, Goddard Islington/Redgrave, Chamberlain of Kettering, Price of St Pancras, Selman of Middlesex. Dench of Littleport. Curtis southwark/Bristol
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byron
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Hi caron,
I noted down these at the time from Barton Seagrave-
Abraham s William & Elizabeth Chamberlain bapt 1 Nov 1795 (bur Jun 1801)
William s William & Elizabeth Chamberlain bapt Oct 1799
Elizabeth Chamberlain aged 65 bur 27 Feb 1831
Either Wm & Eliz didn't have many children or they were having them somewhere else 
Abraham seems to have been named after a deceased older brother - apparently this was quite the thing to do in those days 
regards
byron
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caron
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thank you so much for the information on Abraham Chamberlains family.
I now have Abrahams parents names, and also a note of an elder brother Abraham who died as an infant, and William another brother born 1799.
I have noticed that in the 1851 census Abraham has a William Chamberlain aged 51 and Ann Chamberlain aged 51 from Geddington staying with him. That is obviously his brother and sister in law.
I have now been able to find a marriage between William Chamberlain and Ann Turner from Geddington in 1823, so that has now given me some more information to add to my tree!
I have found some marriages between a William Chamberlain and and Elizabeth at the end of 1790s but one is is Wellingborough in 1706 (both people of this parish) and William of Wold to Elizabeth Taylor of this parish in Isham in 1793. If one of them had William from Barton Seagrave it would be more likely.
Do you have a census index for 1861 to help me track Abraham Chamberlains and William Chamberlains families?
Abraham died in 1866, so I should still be able to find him in 1861. He was living in 1851 at Huxloe Seagrave North, Abraham 44, Eliza 36, Ann born Geddington aged 51. William aged 51 from Barton Seagrave
William 18, Robert 15, Susan 12, Thomas 10 Eliza 9
Hannah 4 John 3 Marianne 1.
12 people in one house must have been cramped!
Obviously we do not know if his brother William and sister in law Ann were still living with him.
Many thanks for your help. You have given me a great deal of information,
Caron
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Mayhew of Coddenham,, Rogers of Southwark, Green of Leighton Buzzard. Greens of Islington.Challis of Southwark, Goddard Islington/Redgrave, Chamberlain of Kettering, Price of St Pancras, Selman of Middlesex. Dench of Littleport. Curtis southwark/Bristol
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byron
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Hi Caron,
Haven't got an 1861 index or NBI 
but can check further records for Barton Seagrave later this week for you and hope to find burials and census entries 
regards byron
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byron
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Hi caron
I had a look for some of your Chamberlains today and found the following:
1851 Barton Seagrave
William Chamberlain, head, mar, 51, labourer, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Ann Chamberlain, wife, mar, 51, labourers wife, born Northants Geddington.
They were one household then 2 household down on the same page:
Abraham Chamberlain, head, mar, 44, labourer, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Eliza Chamberlain, wife, mar, 38, born Essex Stratford(Stretford?)
Robert Chamberlain, son, 15, farm lab, born Middlesex Poplar
Susan Chamberlain, daur, 12, scholar, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Thomas Chamberlain, son, 10, garden boy, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Eliza Chamberlain, daur, 9, scholar, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Hannah Chamberlain, daur, 4, born Northants Barton Seagrave
John Chamberlain, son, 3, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Henry Chamberlain, son, 2, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Marianne Chamberlain, daur, 1, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Then Barton Seagrave in 1861...
Robert Chamberlain, head, mar, 25, ag lab, born Middx St Georges in the East
Sarah E(?) Chamberlain, wife, mar, 23, born Leics Great Easton
Robert W Chamberlain, son, 1, born Northants Kettering
Mary Ann Chamberlain, daur, 3mths, born Northants Barton Seagrave
Next household in schedule:
Abraham Chamberlain, head, mar, 55, ag lab, born Northants BS
Eliza Chamberlain, wife, mar, 49, born Essex
William Chamberlain, son, unm, 27, bootmaker, born Middx St Georges in the East
John Chamberlain, son, 15, ag lab, born Northants BS
Henry Chamberlain, son, 13, ag lab, born Northants BS
Bessy Chamberlain, daur, 9, scholar, born Northants BS
These are the Barton Seagrave burials I found for Chamberlain:
Jane Chamberlain, 14 days, 24 Jun 1819
Frances Chamberlain, 25, 29 Jun 1819
Elizabeth Chamberlain, 65, 27 Feb 1831
Marianne Chamberlain, 28, 13 Apr 1836
William Chamberlain, 77, 6 Apr 1841
Mary Ann Chamberlain, 18, 24 Aug 1845
William Chamberlain, 56, 13 Feb 1855
Mary Ann Chamberlain, 7, 16 Dec 1857
Ann Chamberlain, 60, 3 Jan 1860
Abraham Chamberlain, 60, 5 Aug 1866
Robert Chamberlain, 41, 23 May 1877
And finally:
William Chamberlain of Barton Seagrave married Ann Turner otp 25 December 1823 at Geddington. Both signed with an X
Witnesses Samuel Turner & Mary Chamberlain (both signed names)
Hope that keeps you going for a while 
Regards
byron
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caron
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thank you so much for finding me the Chamberlain details from the Barton Seagrave records. I am absolutely delighted.
Regarding the burials, The only Chamberlains I dont know about are
Jane 1819
Frances 1819 and Mary Ann Chamberlain 1860. All the others were from my family.
You found the burials of Abraham Chamberlain and his wife Ann, and his brother William who was married to Ann (plus their marriage details) (I am now wondering who Mary Chamberlain is who was a witness at the marriage of William and Ann in 1823
in Geddington.!
You also found Abrahams parents William who died in 1841 and Elizabeth who died in 1831.
The only information I am missing now is
William Chamberlains marriage to Elizabeth late 1790s.
This has got me on a lot further, thank you very much for helping me with this research, it is very much appreciated.
What a kind person you are!
Kind regards
caron
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byron
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Hi caron,
I would imagine that the burial for Mary Ann Chamberlain aged 7 in 1857 is probably that of Abraham's daughter Marianne who is 1 in the 1851 census.
The Frances & Jane look like a mother and daughter set but I haven't any other info on them at the moment.
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byron
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caron
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thanks Sandy for letting me have a note of these William Chamberlain marriages.
I know that my ancestor Abraham is the son of William and Elizabeth Chamberlain who was (bapt 10 August 1806) as this information came from Barton Seagrave Parish Records. Bryon kindly looked this information up for me as I am unable to look at parish records myself due to ill health.
I see you have found four possibles parents, I think that the bottom two are the best matches, as their first child was Abraham who was bapt 1/11/1795 and was buried 06 1801. My Abraham was born in 1806 and took the same name. We are therefore looking for a marriage before 1795, so I think the bottom two names are in the right time frame. I dont believe the baptism records would give the maiden name for Elizabeth, to know if either of these could be the parents of my Abraham. I will keep the names on file ,
Thank you very much for your kind help
Caron
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