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vik3000
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I have obtained the marriage certificate of my hubs gg grandparents and am now how difficulty locating the correct families on the census records, especially with the Foster/Forsters!!!!! Needles in haystacks......
I would love any connections or information on the following families please
I have Margaret (Ann) HETHERINGTON born 1852 to Robert Hertherington. Place of residence at time of marriage New Town of Rockcliffe -
(marriage took place) in 1872 parish of Blackford. Robert's occipation was a Farmer.
She married Andrew Foster (the way the name is currently spelt is Forster), his age given as full so can I assume that he was born c1850/1?, occupation Husbandman, born to George Foster (also a husbandman), place of residence given was Barracks Town. (I can find no place of this name).
Witnesses were Joseph Smith and Margaret Foster.
Any and all information and pointers gratefully received.
Thanks
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Hi vik3000,
I think this is your Andrew in 1871, so gives a clue as to age:
Black?nd, West Linton, Carlisle, Cumberland
Thos Baxter Head 48yrs Farmer b. Arthuret, Cumberland
Jane Baxter Sister 42yrs b. Arthuret, Cumberland
Andrew Foster Serv 22yrs General Servant b. Rockliffe, Cumberland
Jane Kirkup Serv 29yrs b. Houghton, Cumberland
George Graham Serv 14yrs b. Rockliffe, Cumberland
What do you think?
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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This looks like your Margaret in 1871 too:
New Town of Rockliffe, West Linton, Carlisle, Cumberland
Robt Hetherington Head 44yrs Farmer of 102 acres b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Jane Hetherington Wife 44yrs Farmer's wife b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
George Hetherington Son 20yrs b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Margaret Hetherington Dau 18yrs b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
James McHay Serv 60yrs Farm Servant b. Haltwhistle, Northumberland
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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And your Andrew in 1861 with his father George:
Tedhills?, Rockliffe Castletown, Carlisle, Cumberland
George Foster Head 48yrs Farmer of 36 acres b. Arthuret, Cumberland
Ann Foster Wife 45yrs Farmer's wife b. Scotland
Mary Foster Dau 16yrs Farmer's dau b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Margaret Foster Dau 14yrs Farmer's dau b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Andrew Foster Son 12yrs Farmer's son b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Daniel Fraser Serv W 70yrs Farm Labourer b. Scotland
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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I am assuming that you have the 1881 census which puts Andrew at 30yrs b. Kirklinton, Cumberland. The Andrew that I have transcribed is the only Andrew Foster in Kirklinton, so looking pretty good 
I'll try and trace your Foster's back further if I can...
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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This is them in 1851:
Moorhouses?, West Linton, Carlisle, Cumberland
George Foster Head 37yrs Husbandman b. Arthuret, Cumberland
Ann Foster Wife 35yrs b. Scotland
Mary Foster Dau 6yrs Scholar b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Margaret Foster Dau 4yrs b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Andrew Foster Son 1yr b. Kirklinton, Cumberland
Elpsy(?) Blake Lodger Wid 73yrs b. Scotland
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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There is a marriage on the IGI for:
George Foster and Ann Blake 11 NOV 1843 Kirklinton, Cumberland, England
Extracted from original records (ie not put on by a member)
Checked Free BMD and it is down as:
George Forster & Ann Blake Dec Q 1843 Longtown, Cumberland (vol 25, pg 111)
Which considering a widowed Mrs Blake is living with them in 1851 suggests it is pretty likely 
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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There is also a birth record on freebmd for:
Andrew Forster Jun Q 1849 Long Town, Cumberland (vol 25, pg 138)
Might be worth checking out to see who his folks are?
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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Best fit so far for George in 1841 is:
Main Street, Longtown, Arthuret, Cumberland
John Forster 65yrs Blacksmith born in county
George Forster 25yrs born in county
other Forster's on the page too
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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Marriage on IGI/Free BMD for:
Robert Hetherington and Jane Campbell 18 NOV 1846 Kirklinton, Cumberland
Dec Q 1846 Longtown, Cumberland (vol 25, pg 123)
Jenny
I'll let you sort through all this and let me know if you need me to look up anything else, as otherwise I tend to get carried away 
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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There is a gravestone at Arthuret which might be the George and Ann in the census reports - if this is your Andrew it would confirm his parents.
In memory of Ann wife of George FORSTER who died at Todhills July 19th 1862 aged 48 years. Also the above George FORSTER who died March 27th 1892 aged 78 years. Also Andrew son of the above George and Ann FORSTER who died at Ponteland Northumberland June 26th 1923 aged 74 years. Also Margaret CARTNER daughter of the above George and Ann FORSTER who died at South Shields March 30th 1924 aged 77 years. Also of Mary beloved wife of David JOHNSTON and eldest daughter of the above who died at Sykehead Hethersgill April 20th 1935 aged 90 years.
And one beside it, which is very likely related:
In memory of Mary wife of James FORSTER of Hallburn who died April 5th 1860 aged 79 years. Also of the above James FORSTER who died May 4th 1873 aged 93 years. Also John their son who died Octr 5th 1863 aged 47 years. Also Margaret his daughter who died at Todhills June 13th 1894 in her 73rd year.
(Reverse) In memory of George FORSTER senior of Slealands who died July 19th 1805 aged 59 years. Also Margaret Mary and Jane daughters of James FORSTER of Slealands who died in their infancy.
Cheers
Bridget
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Wow, thanks Jenny and Bridget for your kind responses, that gives me loads to be going on with. I think sometimes the harder you look the less you see and a fresh pair of eyes often does the trick. I am touched at your help - THANK YOU.
Bridget - may I ask are you on the Cumberland names list? If you are then I have tried to email you and it was returned!!! lol
The name Cartner rings a bell from some previous information - I will have to dig out and find it.
Thank you so much - your help, efforts and kindness is much appreciated. If I can share any information then please let me know.
Vik
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No worries, glad to help 
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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Hello, Jen and Bridget
Just to update you (and thank you once again for the magnificent heads-up you gave me), I have been contacted by a relative who has confirmed the grave memorials - dates, places and names! Fantastic.
First Class ladies.....
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Fantastic, always good to hear when it all works out
Jenny
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Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill
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