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Birth of Charlie Beale
« on: Friday 13 April 07 07:30 BST (UK) »

I'm looking for a record of the birth of my grandfather, Charlie Beale.   His Australian marriage certificate tells me that he was 23 years of age on 22 May 1892 and that his birthplace was Gillingham, Dorsetshire, England.   He had a brother Tom.

Also any records (birth, marriage or death) of his parents, Edwin Beale and Martha Beale (nee Stone).

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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 April 07 07:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Marian,

For a start, this should be him in 1881:
RG11/2084 40 8
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=3630862

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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 April 07 07:38 BST (UK) »

1871
RG10/1971 35 1
East Stower, Dorset
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Edward Beale, head, 44, Ag lab, b. Dorset East Stower
Martha, wife, 44, Gloe Maker, b. Stour Provost
Henry J?, son, 16, Labour, b. Gillingham
Sydney, son, 11, scholar, b. do.
Tom, son, 5, scholar, b. Hants Portsmouth
Charlie, son, 2, b. Dorset East Stower
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 April 07 07:40 BST (UK) »

Birth December quarter 1868
Shaftesbury registration district 5a 231 
Charley Beal
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 April 07 07:47 BST (UK) »

1891
RG12/1630 102 5
East Stour, Dorset
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Edwin Beal, head, 64, General Labourer, b. East Stower
Martha, wife, 64, b. do.

Death September quarter 1894
Shaftesbury 5a 115
Martha Beale age 68

1901
RG13/1967 101 4
East Stour, Dorset
Back Street

Edwin Beal, head, wid, 74, ordinary Agricultural labourer, b. East Stower

Death June quarter 1908
Shaftesbury 5a 131
Edwin Beale age 82
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 April 07 07:57 BST (UK) »

Going backwards now

1861
RG9/634 102 11
Portsea, Hampshire
50 Buckland Street

Edwin Beale, head, 34, Dock Yard Labourer, b. Dorset East Stower
Martha, wife, 35, b. Stower Provost
Henry, son, 6, scholar, b. Gillingham
Sidney, son, 1, b. do.

1841
HO107/293/15 5 5
East Stower, Dorset

William Beal, 66, Ag lab
Ann, 65
Maria, 40
Samuel, 19
Edwin, 14
Charles, 3

In 1851, they seem to be hiding under the name Moore  Huh
1851
HO107/1851 425 14
East Stower, Dorset
Hungryhill

Maria Moore, head, unm, 47, b. Melbury Dorset
Edwin, son, 24, Farm Labourer, b. East Stour
Charles, son, 13, Farm Labourer, b. do.
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 April 07 08:03 BST (UK) »

Martha ...

1851
HO107/1851 424 13
East Stower, Dorset
Hungryhill

Mark Stone, head, wid, 85, Farm Labourer, b. East Stour Dorset
Jane, dau, unm, 52, Out door servant, b. do.
John, grandson, unm, 28, Labourer, b. Stour Provost
Martha, granddau, unm, 24, Glover, b. do.
Mary, granddau, unm, 22, Glover, b. do.
Hannah, lodger, 7 mo, b. East Stour
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 April 07 08:08 BST (UK) »

From the IGI at www.familysearch.org

Extracted marriage record:
EDWIN BEAL - MARTHA STONE
Marriage 03 JUN 1860   Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 
Husband Age at Marriage:  33   
Wife Age at Marriage:  33   

(Indeed it seems the elder children Henry and Sidney were registered in the surname Stone)



Christening Edwin Beal 
22 APR 1827   East Stower, Dorset
Mother:  Maria Beal  

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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 April 07 00:17 BST (UK) »

Thank you Tati for all your research.
Best wishes
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 October 08 19:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Marian
Charlie Beale is the brother of Henry Beale who is my great great grandfather. I knew there was an Australian connection down that branch of the family and would love to hear from you!

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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 October 08 13:32 BST (UK) »

looks like maria beale has 3 sons out of wedlock
edwin bapt 22nd april 1827 east stower
frank bapt 17th may 1835 buckland ripers
charles bapt 19th march 1837 east stower
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Re: Birth of Charlie Beale
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 October 08 19:20 BST (UK) »

I knew about Edwin and Charles but Frank is news to me! So fascinating to think a family so established in Dorset would venture to Australia.
My great great grandfather Henry Beale stayed in Dorset and had eight children one of which whose descendants also moved to Australia many years later!
Thanks for the information.
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