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Brian H
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Dear Fellow Rootschatters,
I am seeking information on my aunt, Jessica DYER (b.1906), a spinster who passed away in August, 1991, aged 85 years in Thanet, Kent.
I know she lived in Ruskin Avenue, Manor Park, East Ham at least until 1951 when her mother died.
As far as I know she had siblings named Dorothy (b.1895) (my mother who came to Australia in the 1920s), Lavinia (b.1903), Winifred, Edward, Louisa (b.1900), Charles (b.1888/9) and Elizabeth (b.1886/7).
Not sure of dates for Winifred and Edward).
I have only recently found out this information and would appreciate any help that anyone can give me in finding my long lost relatives.
Brian H.
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Researching To Find Lots Of Things Not To Do.
Research Names & Areas:
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London, England: SLADE / DYER /
Cumberland, England: DOUGHERTY / JACKSON / POLLOCK /
Dumfrieshire, Scotland: POLLOCK /
New Zealand: POLLOCK /
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Valda
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Jessica's death registration placing her birth in the first quarter of 1906
Jessica Dyer 17 Jan 1906 Aug 1991 85 Thanet Kent
and her birth registration in London
Births Mar 1906
Dyer Jessica Islington 1b 167
Was your mother younger or older than Jessica. Would her birth have been before the 1901 census?
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Valda
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Hi Brian
I believe Thanet District Council to be rather courteous in supplying details of burials and cremations from their burial/grave/cremation registers and possibly even grave purchase registers if applicable:
http://www.thanet.gov.uk/community__living/deaths,_funerals__cremations.aspx
Thanet Crematorium & Cemeteries
Manston Road
Margate
CT9 4LY
Tel: 01843 224492
Fax: 01843 292218
email is on the page via the above link
Casalguidi
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Brian H
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Hello Fellow RootsChatters,
Thank you so far to Romilly, Valda & Casalguidi for your responses.
Casalguidi I will certainly give the Thanet District Council a go regarding burials etc.
I have Dyers in London in my family, but mine came to London from East Grinstead, Sussex.
Do you know where yours originated from?
Hello Romilly,
Regarding the origins of the DYERs (prior to London - 1860), nothing definite. We are not sure where they originated from.
......Was your mother younger or older than Jessica. Would her birth have been before the 1901 census?
Hello Valda,
In answer to your question, my mother Dorothy was (b.1895) in London.
Dorothy's mother, Louisa married Charles DYER in 1899.
Elizabeth and Charles, were the Issue of Charles from a former marriage.
* PLEASE NOTE - Original Posting has been revised to include known dates.
Thanking You,
Brian H.
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Research Names & Areas:
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London, England: SLADE / DYER /
Cumberland, England: DOUGHERTY / JACKSON / POLLOCK /
Dumfrieshire, Scotland: POLLOCK /
New Zealand: POLLOCK /
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Hi Brian - so are you looking to find the descendants of your mothers siblings, or to follow the family back to earlier census years ?
Looks like Charles Dyer's 1st wife was Kate Jessie E Brown..
Marriages Sep 1886
BROWN Kate Jessie E Pancras Vol 1b Page 283
DYER Charles do do do
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK |
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Valda
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1901 census RG13 144 folio 95
3 Little George Street St Pancras London
Charles Dyer 38 Battersea, London, Head Married Stage carpenter
Louisa Dyer 27 St Giles, London, Wife Married
Eliz Dyer 14 St Giles, London, Daughter
Charles Dyer 12 Harringay, Middlesex, Son
Dorothy Dyer 6 St Giles, London, Daughter
Louisa Dyer 1 St Pancras, London, Daughter
Births Mar 1900
Dyer Louisa Pancras 1b 87
Marriages Mar 1899
Dyer Charles Pancras 1b 162
Slade Louisa Lavinia D Pancras 1b 162
Births Mar 1895
Slade Dorothy St. Giles 1b 648
1891 census RG12 117 folio
112 Robert Street Pancras
Charles Dyer 28 Battersea, London, Head Married Upholster's Porter
Kate J Dyer 22 St Pancras, London, Wife Married
Elizabeth K Dyer 4 St Giles, London, Daughter
Charles Dyer 2 Wood Green, London, Son
Clara Dyer 6mths St Pancras, London, Daughter
Next household same address
Charles Dyer 49 Wandsworth, Surrey, Head Married Upholsters Clerk
Elizabeth Dyer 49 Truro, Cornwall, Wife Married Shopkeeper
Agnes G Dyer 24 Battersea, Surrey, Daughter Upholsters ? maker
Ernest G Dyer 19 Battersea Surrey, Son French polisher
Walter A Dyer 14 St Pancras Middlesex, Son Upholsters Apprentice
Thomas J Dyer 12 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Sidney L Dyer 5 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Births Dec 1890
Dyer Clara Pancras 1b 10
Deaths Mar 1892
Dyer Clara 1 Pancras 1b 53
Births Dec 1888
DYER Charles Edmonton 3a 325
Births Mar 1887
DYER Elizabeth Kate St. Giles 1b 627
Deaths Mar 1898
Dyer Kate Jessie E 29 Pancras 1b 3
Regards
Valda
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Brian H
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Hello Newfy,
Thank you for your interest in my Topic.
In answer to your question, yes I am looking for the descendants of my mother's siblings (both step & half).
We will trace further back, when we have filled in the gaps.
........Looks like Charles Dyer's 1st wife was Kate Jessie E Brown..
Marriages Sep 1886
BROWN Kate Jessie E Pancras Vol 1b Page 283
DYER Charles do do do
Yes I have come across this marriage previously, thinking that this might be our Charles DYER.
Also found a birth for an Elizabeth Kate DYER (b1887) St. Giles, we assume this would be their daughter.
Previously we have found the family on the 1901 Census.
We are currently awaiting the 1911 Census.
Thanks for your help,
Brian H.
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London, England: SLADE / DYER /
Cumberland, England: DOUGHERTY / JACKSON / POLLOCK /
Dumfrieshire, Scotland: POLLOCK /
New Zealand: POLLOCK /
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Brian H
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Hello Valda,
Thank you very much for your thorough and informative reply. Very interesting about the 1891 Census, this confirms what we came across in the 1901 Census.
.........1891 census RG12 117 folio
112 Robert Street Pancras
Charles Dyer 28 Battersea, London, Head Married Upholster's Porter
Kate J Dyer 22 St Pancras, London, Wife Married
Elizabeth K Dyer 4 St Giles, London, Daughter
Charles Dyer 2 Wood Green, London, Son
Clara Dyer 6mths St Pancras, London, Daughter
Next household same address
Charles Dyer 49 Wandsworth, Surrey, Head Married Upholsters Clerk
Elizabeth Dyer 49 Truro, Cornwall, Wife Married Shopkeeper
Agnes G Dyer 24 Battersea, Surrey, Daughter Upholsters ? maker
Ernest G Dyer 19 Battersea Surrey, Son French polisher
Walter A Dyer 14 St Pancras Middlesex, Son Upholsters Apprentice
Thomas J Dyer 12 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Sidney L Dyer 5 St Pancras Middlesex, Son
Births Dec 1890
Dyer Clara Pancras 1b 10
Deaths Mar 1892
Dyer Clara 1 Pancras 1b 53
Births Dec 1888
DYER Charles Edmonton 3a 325
Births Mar 1887
DYER Elizabeth Kate St. Giles 1b 627
Deaths Mar 1898
Dyer Kate Jessie E 29 Pancras 1b 3.......
I am very excited about the information you have given me.
It is nearly 11.00pm here in Australia, I will print it out and sleep on it.
I will be in touch, thanking you,
Brian H.
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Research Names & Areas:
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London, England: SLADE / DYER /
Cumberland, England: DOUGHERTY / JACKSON / POLLOCK /
Dumfrieshire, Scotland: POLLOCK /
New Zealand: POLLOCK /
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Valda
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Much trickier to spot Louisa Lavinia Slade on the 1881 census
Births Mar 1874
Slade Louisa Lavinia St Giles 1b 575
She was a servant on the 1891 census.
You might need her birth certificate and or her marriage certificate to go further. It might be interesting to know what the initial D stood for when she married - perhaps another surname?
I would check a website like GenesReunited to see whether anyone is expressing an interest in your mother's C20th/late C19th half siblings. As far as I can see she didn't have any step siblings unless Louisa or Charles married again, to someone with children of their own.
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Valda
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Hi all - well I see Valda went ahead anyway 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK |
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My understanding from a PM that this is Louisa and her grandparents on the 1881 census.
RG11 327 folio 48
29 Dudley Street St Giles in the Fields
Joseph J. Slade 52 Head London Married Bootmaker
Caroline S. Slade 53 Wife London Married
Lucia L. Slade 7 London Granddaughter
1871 census RG10
8 Great Earl Street St Giles in the Fields
Joseph Slade 50 London, Middlesex Head Married Shoemaker
Sarah Slade 48 London, Middlesex Wife Married Tailoress
Caroline Slade 13 London, Middlesex Daughter
1861 census RG9 173 folio 40
29 Dudley Street St Giles in the Fields
Joseph Slade 40 St Martins Head Married Butcher
Caroline Slade 36 St Martins Wife Married Tailoress
Caroline Slade 3 St Giles Daughter
1851 census HO107 1509 folio 2??
72 Dudley Street St Giles in the Fields
Joseph Slade 29 St Martin's Middlesex Head Married Bootcloser
Sarah Slade 27 Wife Grays Inn? Middlesex Married Tailoress
William Slade 8?? Son St Giles Middlesex
Deaths Sep 1886
Slade Caroline Sarah 63 St. Giles 1b 391
Deaths Jun 1886
Slade Joseph 67 St. Giles 1b 341
Regards
Valda
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Possible marriage - but it would have to be an error on the marriage certificate or GRO index
Marriages Dec 1846
Slade Joseph St Giles & 1 67
a possible spouse
Jewell Catherine Sarah St Giles 1 67
Caroline's birth certificate would confirm her mother's maiden name.
Births Sep 1857
Slade Caroline St. Giles 1b 387
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Valda
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JOSEPH SLADE
Christening: 11 FEB 1822 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
Father: JOHN SLADE
Mother: MARY
MARY ANN SLADE
Christening: 18 DEC 1814 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
Death: 24 MAY 1816
Father: JOHN SLADE
Mother: MARY
CHARLES SLADE
Christening: 05 MAY 1817 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
Father: JOHN SLADE
Mother: MARY
Joseph's father's name can be confirmed from his marriage certificate when you can obtain the one you are sure of to establish whether this is Joseph's baptism. His father's occupation would be on the baptism record.
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Valda
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