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Re: Please help trace this person.
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:29 BST (UK) »

Births Dec 1864   
 
Whetton  Mary    Lichfield  Vol 6b Page 350

was wondering if she was called Mary Ann ?


That is the birth record I have of her as well. I have no idea why she would be known as Ann. Unless it was a family name for her?? Everything else she is Mary. How strange


Also missing from 1881 census is Eliza Whetton who seems to be Marys Mother. There is a death record I have just found here

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This looks like it could be her what do you think? Poor girl she was only in her 30s.
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Re: Please help trace this person.
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:36 BST (UK) »

Looks like the Ann we found in 1881 is not your lass ...

Marriages Mar 1881 
 
HAYWOOD  William    Mt.Bosworth Vol 7a Page 107   
WHETTON  Mary     do do do
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:40 BST (UK) »

From the kids ages in 1891, either they married 1882 ish, or William brought kids with him from a previous marriage.


Ada and 'Lottie' are the link to 1901 ...

Now that looks like them yes  Grin The name Hayward is always bugging me as that was my maiden name for 27 years so I know how annoying it is spelled Hayward but it is Haywood. Everything else seems to fit okish. I know there is certainly an Ada and Lottie from living relatives. Also I have found them on the 1901 census listed correctly. William was born in Orton though in Leceistershire not Heston as listed in the 1891 census. Do you think that is still ok?

Gertrude seems to have vansihed bewteen the two census as well but as she was 9 in 1891 she may have married before the 1901 census came about. The others on the 1901 were all under 10 when the 1901 census came out.

It certainly looks like them Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:41 BST (UK) »

Looks like the Ann we found in 1881 is not your lass ...

Marriages Mar 1881 
 
HAYWOOD  William    Mt.Bosworth Vol 7a Page 107   
WHETTON  Mary     do do do


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Do you think that the name Ann was a mistake? They have made a mistake with name on the earlier census haven't they with Jane Ellen?
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« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:43 BST (UK) »

I'd go with it - subject to belt-and-braces with Marriage Cert - and one of the kids certs to check maiden name if you really really want to be sure ....
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EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:44 BST (UK) »

Here they are in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=12220525
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:48 BST (UK) »

re Ann vs Mary on 1881 - who knows ! I've seen the strangest things on a return. The enumerator may have misunderstood, may have copied his schedule incorrectly into the formal return (the image you see on Ancestry) and and and ...  Smiley

We dont know the actual date of the marriage 1Q 1881 - I'm just assuming it had to be before the census (Census was taken on the night of 3 April 1881) .... and people do get enumerated in 2 places at once very occasionally ...

All the other points about missing daughters from 91 to 01 can probably be explained ...
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:51 BST (UK) »

Well spotted Tati .... now who is Ann with George Whetton in 1881 then   Shocked Roll Eyes
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:53 BST (UK) »

Errr ... je ne sais pas  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:54 BST (UK) »

Doh - she's on the 1871 - a year older than Mary  ..... never noticed as we didnt transcribe that entry  ...  Roll Eyes
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:55 BST (UK) »

Snap, Newfy  Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 April 07 12:57 BST (UK) »

Liz - the other 'mystery' - you mentioned 2 Jane Ellens on the 1871.

The 2nd one is an UNNAMED son I'd say - it isnt a 'ditto' under Jane Ellen, just a line  Smiley

And in 1881 a 10 year old George C would seem to confirm it .... Cool
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #27 on: Friday 13 April 07 14:00 BST (UK) »

Doh - she's on the 1871 - a year older than Mary  ..... never noticed as we didnt transcribe that entry  ...  Roll Eyes


LOL you two are confusing me. God knows how you are finding this stuff I wish I could!!

OK so I now have Mary living with her Mother in law and new husband in 1881. That is cool.

What are you saying about the problem with Ann/Mary Whetton??
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 13 April 07 14:08 BST (UK) »

What are you saying about the problem with Ann/Mary Whetton??
Is there still a problem?  Huh Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: Friday 13 April 07 14:40 BST (UK) »

Doh - she's on the 1871 - a year older than Mary  ..... never noticed as we didnt transcribe that entry  ...  Roll Eyes

Yes there is an Ann and a Mary on 1871 but on the 1881 Mary has vanisihed. Maybe she is in hospital or maybe staying with a friend or relative?

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