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elaine447
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I CANNOT FIND A DEATH FOR SOLOMON GIVEN (B) 1820'S IN IRELAND
HE WAS MARRIED IN 1843 SCOTLAND
I HAVE FOUND OTHER SOLOMON GIVEN'S DEATHS IN GREENOCK THEY ARE THE SON AND GRANDSONS OF THE ABOVE on (scotlands people)
WERE ELSE COULD I TRY
ELAINE
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« Last Edit: Monday 16 April 07 10:55 UTC (UK) by Little Nell »
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
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hume
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What censuses do you have him in? For instance, do you have him after 1861? I searched for all Solomon Given deaths in Scotland but as you said, none of them match up age-wise.
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elaine447
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I HAVE him on the 1861 census aged 39 can't find him on the 1871
I CAN FIND THEIR MARRIAGE BANNS BUT NO DEATHS
I AM NOT SURE IF HE IS THE SAME PERSON ON THE 1841 CENSUS BECAUSE THE AGE DOESN'T FIT
ELAINE
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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moscan
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The next generation
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I agree couldn't find him after the 1861,
Did find death of Agnes Given Daughter of Solomon and Agnes Given aged 13 years in 1860 I am afraid the image is not great and I could not decipher the date...
Could they have returned to Ireland?
best wishes
Mo
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
Researching: - Freear, Walker, Aston, Scanlan, Courtney, Lowth, O’Sulivan, McDonnell, Condon, McMahon, McKay, Brock, Gourlay, Busby
Locations: - March in Cambridgeshire, Banbury in Oxfordshire, Mileham in Norfolk, Worcester, Evesham, Claines in Worcestershire, Birmingham. Dublin, Cork, Fermanagh in Ireland. Glasgow, Stirling in Scotland
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elaine447
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thanks mo
its possible they went back to ireland
wish I knew were to start looking , ireland doesn't seem to be a big place
untill you start to search
never mind I'll keep looking
thank you so much
elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Elaine
Just a thought. Is this son Solomon's wedding:
SOLOMON GIVEN Marriage: 18 DEC 1871 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
If you have viewed, does it show father as alive or deceased. Sometimes when you are trying to narrow down when somebody died, you can get confirmation from their children's marriage cert.
...May not take you much further given that Solomon's death entry in not showing in Scotland but at least it will give you a narrower window to look for elsewhere.
Regards.
Monica 
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MonicaLesl
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Just had a look at the 1841 Census entry for Soloman in Port Glasgow. I would say, Elaine, it's very likely him by the look of it with his parents Soloman and Ruth and siblings, all showing as born in Ireland.
Just in case you are not aware of this point on the 1841 Census, ages for everyone over the age of 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest five years. Children under 15 are supposed to show their actual age. In this case, Soloman showing birth year 1826 would indicate a birth year of between 1822-26.
Given that he married Agnes in 1843 in Port Glasgow, it further add to likelyhood to you have the right Soloman with his family.
Regards.
Monica
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elaine447
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thanks for that monica
I didn't know they rounded the ages but sounds logical now you have pointed it out
maybe if I can find where the other siblings went to . maybe they all moved somewhere together
thank you I think you's are all fantastic Ihave had more helpon rootschat thanany where else I have looked
luckyhunting everyone
elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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moscan
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I can never leave things alone lol....
Marriage of Solomon Given to Flora Cameron 18th December 1871 in Dundee. both aged 24. Flora was a widow (ROBERT MUNDY Iron Fitter)
Father of Solomon - Solomon Given Stoker on a Steam boat
Mother of Solomon - Agnes Given nee Wyllie
Father of Flora - Donald Cameron Ropespinner Joiner
Mother of Flora - Elizabeth Cameron nee Adams
Looks like both parents were alive therefore in 1871
Best wishes
Mo
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
Researching: - Freear, Walker, Aston, Scanlan, Courtney, Lowth, O’Sulivan, McDonnell, Condon, McMahon, McKay, Brock, Gourlay, Busby
Locations: - March in Cambridgeshire, Banbury in Oxfordshire, Mileham in Norfolk, Worcester, Evesham, Claines in Worcestershire, Birmingham. Dublin, Cork, Fermanagh in Ireland. Glasgow, Stirling in Scotland
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elaine447
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thanks mo
that's what happens with this family search stuff the more you find out the more you want to keep looking
I think its brilliant
thanks again
elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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MonicaLesl
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And you can discount son Thomas from the list of children for Soloman and Agnes. He looks to also have died in 1861:
1861 GIVEN THOMAS (mother's surname) WYLIE 1 GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE /RENFREW 564/01 0237
Regards.
Monica
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elaine447
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hi monica
the 1851 census for port glasgow has elizabeth married to a matthew davis
and martha living at their house
no mention of the rest of the family
maybe they already started moving to other areas will check it out, There is a few names on that census I have seen else where so I think I better start digging
elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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