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acky
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help Tracing my wifes family we have ELIZA GOFF married to john riddey1872age 19(IGI)then we have ELIZA GOFF age 30 unmarried born 1851( 1881)census we then have ELIZA GOFF age 41 married to thomas harpen 1889, are they the same ELIZA ,all these were living at Cranfield Beds .
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So basically thats:-
- an Eliza born 1853...married to a Riddely in 1872
- and in the 1881 an unmarried one born 1851
- finally, an Eliza born 1848...married to a Harpen by 1889
Lets have a look ...
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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FreeBMD - 1845 - 1855 births
Births Jun 1850
Goff Eliza Bedford V6 P30
Births Jun 1853
Goff Elizabeth Shirck Bedford V3b P314
Births Sep 1853
Goff Eliza Ampthill V3b P315
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Ditto date range for GOUGH
Births Jun 1850
Gough Elizabeth Bedford V 6 31
Births Sep 1855
Gough Eliza Bedford V 3b 292
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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The niece (unmarried) in 1881 is most likely the 1850 lass above
Also, an Eliza Riddy in 1881 Cranfield is a sister in law to a Charles and Emma Fountain - she is thus most likely to be the Eliza you saw married in the IGI. She staes she is 26 tho, but I bet she is the 1853 Ampthill Regn above.
Charles married Emma Goff ..
Marriages Jun 1876
Fountain Charles Ampthill Vol 3b P647
Goff Emma do do do
So, thats at least 2 alive in 1881.
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Hi
Sticking to the 1845-55 age range in 1871 there are 2 Eliza Goffs (no Goughs) living in Cranfield one born c1848 niece to Susanna Goff , one c1851 daughter of John and Mary Ann
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Marriages Sep 1889
Gough Eliza Ampthill Vol 3b P617
Harpur Thomas Goodrich do do do
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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1861 Cranfield Beds RG9 /1002/ 37 /26
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John Goff head mar 46 ag lab b.Northants Kettering
Mary Ann Goff wife mar 44 b.Beds Cranfield
Mary Ann daur 13 lacemaker do
George son 10 ag lab do
Eliza daur 8 lacemaker do
Emma Goff daur 4 do
folio 26 p4
West of Merchant Lane
Zacharia Goff head mar 22 ag lab
Elizabeth Goff wife mar 26 lacemaker
George son 4
Elizabeth daur 2
all born Beds Cranfield
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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According to the 1891 census Eliza, wife of Thomas G Harper states her age as 44 .... so I'd guess (as she doesnt show in the Goughs found earlier) she was born before 1845 - if yet transcribed in FreeBMD - or spelled as another variant ...
RG12/1261; Folio 8; Page 10 - Cranfield
Cant see other marriages or remarriages .... you might have to resort to finding these females in earlier census with parents....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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1891 Beds Ampthill RG12/1261/24/9
Cotttage Main st Cranfield
Eliza Riddey head widow 38 lacemaker
George do nephew 18 labourer
Winifred do neice 12 scholar
all born Cranfield
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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TO ALL <Many thanks for all info, tracing village people is enough to send you to drink!!!!
ACKY
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according to the 1841 Beds Ampthill Cranfield HO107 0006 fol6/5 p4
John and Mary Goff are probably parents of Zacharia from the 1861
John Goff 44 ag lab not born in county
Mary 44
Zacharia 4
Thomas 2
rest all born in county
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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Cranfield is in Ampthill registration district so I think you need to regard any Bedford registration district births with a lot of suspicion. These were still early days with civil registration so quite a few births were not registered.
In 1861
- there's an Eliza Goff age 11 born Bromham Beds living in Marylebone. Bromham is in Bedford reg district so I think she is more likely to be the 1850 birth
- there's also a 7 year old Elizabeth M Goff born Bedford, living in Bedford in 1861. I wonder if she's the June 1854 birth - her father married as John Estick Goff so I wonder if the middle name of Elizabeth Shirck Goff is a corruption.
- another 11 year old Elizabeth Gough born and living in Bromham probably takes care of the June 1850 Elizabeth Gough in Bedford.
- there's a Jane Gough 23 and Eliza Gough 16 both unmarried, both born Cranfield living as lodgers in Luton. Jane appears to have been christened in Cranfield on 6 Aug 1837 as Jane Goff, daughter of Sarah Goff, so may have been illegiitimate (per IGI - extracted entry). There's another baptism in Cranfield of Eliza Gough on 11 May 1845 daughter of Elizabeth Gough so she may have been illegitimate too - this one seems favourite to have married in 1889 aged 41 (ish!) and to be the niece of Susannah in 1871 and 1881. To summarise in response to your original question, I think the 30 year in 1881 is the same one who married in 1889 aged 41, although she was actually born in 1845!.
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David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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Hi David ,Once again many thanks ,we believe it is beginning to all fall in place ,touch wood ACKY
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