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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 05 May 07 08:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Ana,

I wasn't arguing against Percy SMITH - it's just that I can't manage to find him in the 1881 census on FamilySearch!

Let's hope someone can look with fresh eyes for James's father Joseph TOMBS in 1841, 1851 and later censuses (sorry - I don't have access to these).

And for James in 1841 and 1851 (though he does seem likely to be the 14yo tap boy b Hanley in the 1851).

Good luck,

JAP
PS: (Added later) This is probably just a red herring but on FreeBMD there's a Joseph Wagstaff TOMBS marrying in Worcester in 1839 ...
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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 05 May 07 08:59 BST (UK) »

I have found a James Lutwich born to a Harriett Lutwich in 1837 in Castlemorton, who is on the 1841 census with hs mother, but then vanishes - no further census or death records. Any hints as to how I could sort out whether this is an illegitimate son of Joseph Tombs? (...I can't see how this could be shown to be the case, but just in case you know something that I don't...)

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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 05 May 07 09:06 BST (UK) »

Sigh, no go - I found his death as Lutwyche... Hope I didn't waste your time.
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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 05 May 07 09:29 BST (UK) »

You mentioned a Joseph TOMBS in Castlemorton in the 1851 and 1861.

This perhaps the same chap as the following in the 1881 in Castlemorton:
Joseph TOMBS, 60, Ag Lab, b Castlemorton
Eliza TOMBS, 30, Wife, Glover, b Hereford
Emma TOMBS, 7, Daur, b Castlemorton
Charles TOMBS, 4, Son, b Castlemorton
Their marriage perhaps the one of a Joseph TOMBS (also indexed as THOMBS) in 1870 in Upton on Severn, an Eliza COOPER on the same page.

Not that this helps.

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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 04 November 07 04:52 GMT (UK) »

There are only two Tombs families in the Parish of Hanley Castle in 1841:

HO107/1 fol.47 p.21 Coronation Lodge, Hanley Castle
Henry Tombs 30, Shoemaker
Ann       "       30
Charles  "        8
Henry     "        5
Mary       "        3
George   "   4 months
Thomas Allen  40 Horsekeeper
Thomas Tombs 15 J.Shoemaker
all born in county

Looking for the family of the 4 month old George Tombs.  He married Marion Lee in 1859.  Their granddaughter Edith Marion Tombs (b. 1894) came to Canada as a home child.


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St. Genny's, Cornwall: Bone/Bowen, Burden
Isle of Wight: Jolliffe
Lincolnshire: Hunt, Storey, Brewerton, Tooley, England, Eaton
Yorkshire: Brewerton, Shackleton
Harby, Nottinghamshire: Wells, Almond, Robinson
Fulham, Middlesex & Worchestershire: Tombs
Northumberland: Chester
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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 04 November 07 05:19 GMT (UK) »

...  Looking for the family of the 4 month old George Tombs.  He married Marion Lee in 1859.  Their granddaughter Edith Marion Tombs (b. 1894) came to Canada as a home child.  ... 

Welcome to RootsChat, bowallgen.

What do you already know and what are you trying to find out?

Is this George & Marion in 1881 (from FamilySearch at http://www.familysearch.org ):
9 Harriet St, London
TOMBS
George 40, Inspector Railway, b Malvern Worcestershire
Marion 43, Wife, b Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, Dressmake
Samuel 20, Gardener
George 17, Labour
Charles 15, Shop Boy
Alfred 12, Scholar
William 10, Scholar
Charlotte 8, Scholar
All b Fulham, London

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Re: Tombs family
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:27 GMT (UK) »

This is the same person as outlined below George Tombs (1841-1887) and Marion Lee (1834 - 1883).  Missing from the 1881 Census record below is Elizabeth Marion Tombs their daughter born Abt. 1867.  I think that she is working as a servant for the Edis family of 1 Clifton Villas Maxwell Rd. (www.familysearch.org) - (no other evidence to support this). She had a child Edith Marion Tombs in 1894 at the Fulham Union Workhouse and Infirmary with no father listed.  The father was a Benjamin West as can be found from Edith Marion Tombs registration to the Barnardo Home for Children admission record from 4 September 1901.  I have worked out most of the details from this record concerning her admission (quite a sad story).  My interest is that Edith Marion Tombs is my wife's grandmother.  Would be pleased to provide further details.  Elizabeth Marion Tombs either married or lived with an Arthur Day (1856 - 1901) and had a child Rosie early in 1901.
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Devonshire: Courtice, Allin, Thorne
St. Genny's, Cornwall: Bone/Bowen, Burden
Isle of Wight: Jolliffe
Lincolnshire: Hunt, Storey, Brewerton, Tooley, England, Eaton
Yorkshire: Brewerton, Shackleton
Harby, Nottinghamshire: Wells, Almond, Robinson
Fulham, Middlesex & Worchestershire: Tombs
Northumberland: Chester
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