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AB321
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi everyone,
I am having a little trouble with my Grandfather's line. There is not much info available plus the name Smith doesn't help matters much!
All I know is that his parents were Henry Herbert and Frances and they lived in Lincolnshire and moved to Cardiff. They had at least 10 children, some born in Lincolnshire and some (including my Grandad) in Cardiff. He didn't have contact with the older ones.
On FreeBMD I found a Harry Herbert who married a Frances Elizabeth Newham, Dec 1898 in Bourne, but I can't be sure it is the correct couple.
The children's names are: Dorothy, Henry, Kenneth, Francis, Frederick, Helen, Hilda, Ernest, Eve and John Edward (my Grandad DOB Nov 1915).
Any help would be great as I need to be be on the right track in the first place to continue tracing this line.
Thanks Andi
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"Barnsley" - Staffordshire "Stokes" - Staffordshire "Dunn" - Staffordshire "Stradwick" - Middlesex/London "Finch" - Bedfordshire "Williamson" - Bedfordshire "Smith" - Lincolnshire
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Geoff E
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There was a John E SMITH reg in Cardiff in Q4 1915, mother nee NEWHAM, 11a 586
Your 1898 marriage find looks pretty good to me.
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Geoff E
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Could they have got to Cardiff via Nottingham?? They didn't put mother's maiden names with the births until 1911
There's
Births Dec 1911
Smith Henry (Newham) Nottingham 7b 697
Births Mar 1914
SMITH Ernest (Newham) Nottingham 7b 690
Births Dec 1915
Smith John E (Newham) Cardiff 11a 586
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Geoff E
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I think I may have them in 1901
Easton on the Hill, Northants
Richard SMITH 50 Agric Machine Owner, Lincs Carlby
Rose 40 Grantham
Harry H (son) 26 Engine Driver, Grimsby
Frances E 20 Witham on the Hill
Francis H (g son) 1 Carlby
Lilian M 8m Carlby
I did spot this when I was looking earlier - it looks like it was the one
Births Jun 1874
Smith Harry Herbert Caistor 7a 651
I'll be back later - you can search the 1881 census at
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
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johnP-bedford
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Grand baby Jack 21/08/2008
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Hello Andi; Thanks Geoff for that last bit
It now (sort of) confirms the 1891 census entry I found, living in Witham on the Hill, Lincs; Reg District = Bourn
RG12/2557 Folio 145 Page 3
Charles E Newham, head, age 33, born Witham on the Hill ; Tailor
Ruth Newham, wife, age 41, born Surfleet, Spalding, Lincs
Frances E Newham, daughter, age 9, born Burton on Trent, Staffs ; Scholar
+ Robert C Smith, boarder, single, age 40, born Witham on the Hill ; General Labourer
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johnP-bedford
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Grand baby Jack 21/08/2008
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staying in 1891, living at Smith's Farm Carlby Lincs
RG12/2557; Folio 159; Page 2.
Richard Smith, head, age 40, born Carlby ; Farmer
Mary Jane Smith, wife, age 39 , born Wainfleet, Lincs
Harry Herbert Smith, son, age 16, born Grimsby ; 'farmers son'
Annie Dunkley Smith, daughter, age 14, born Carlby ; scholar
Robert Smith, son, age 12, born Carlby ; scholar
Maria Smith age 9
George Smith age 7
Hobson Smith age 6
Charles A Smith age 5
Gertrude Smith age 3
last 5 children all born Carlby
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Geoff E
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Charles B Newham, head, age 33, born Witham on the Hill ; Tailor
Ruth Newham, wife, age 41, born Surfleet, Spalding, Lincs
Frances E Newham, daughter, age 9, born Burton on Trent, Staffs ; Scholar
+ Robert C Smith, boarder, single, age 40, born Witham on the Hill ; General Labourer
You failed to mention the next door neighbours
Samuel NEWHAM 61 Tailor, Northants Middleton
Frances 62 Laundress, Rutland Market Overton
Jane (dau,unm) 27 Cook Dom Servant, Witham on the Hill
Edward (g son) 1 Leicester
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