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Topic: Chrichton Royal Institution.Dumfries (Read 1732 times)
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TikTokToo
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Hello 'dolly dimples',
Scotlandspeople (SP) has two Helen Martin deaths, around the correct age, in Dumfries County between 1901-1956. Both turn out to be in Dumfries District. You say that you have already searched for her death on SP so I assume that you have you dismissed them.
I have not paid to look at the records but one is in 1929, age 80 and the other is in 1932, age 82.
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dolly dimples
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Hi T.T.T. thank's for your reply, I was at the end of my credits on S.P. when searching for my Helen, I only came up with one possible, in 1918, and as her nee name was Brash I spent last credit on it, and it was the wrong one! Rather than waste any more money, which I always seem to on that site, I thought I'd try to find out more info about the Institution, and also wondered if Helen had possibly moved from Dumfries after 1901. Your 1929 one sounds a good possibility tho' so I may stretch the budget and try again, although it would sadden me even more if I found that she had spent all those years locked away. She had 5 children between 18781 & 1881, then ended up in a mental Institution, how awful eh? Thanks again, Dolly.
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Northumberland. Main.Hertfordshire.Brash.Dryden
East Lothian.Brash. Dryden. Cumberland.Henderson.Joyce.
Plymouth.Charlick. Canada.Boulds.
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dolly dimples
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Hi T.T.T. thank's for your reply, I was at the end of my credits on S.P. when searching for my Helen, I only came up with one possible, in 1918, and as her nee name was Brash I spent last credit on it, and it was the wrong one! Rather than waste any more money, which I always seem to on that site, I thought I'd try to find out more info about the Institution, and also wondered if Helen had possibly moved from Dumfries after 1901. Your 1929 one sounds a good possibility tho' so I may stretch the budget and try again, although it would sadden me even more if I found that she had spent all those years locked away. She had 5 children between 1871 & 1881, then ended up in a mental Institution, how awful eh? Thanks again, Dolly.
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Northumberland. Main.Hertfordshire.Brash.Dryden
East Lothian.Brash. Dryden. Cumberland.Henderson.Joyce.
Plymouth.Charlick. Canada.Boulds.
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duckweed
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The Crichton is now a college, part of a university. There is a graveyard behind it which would have ex patients and staff who died there. Could be another place to search. Famous people who were patients there included Conan Doyle's father and Spike Milligan. The Crichton was a massive place and included an industrial unit, a market garden, a farm and also had the Nursing School there, and the laundries. I believe there is a website which tells you its history but I don't know the address.
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mosstrooper
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Dolly,
I wouldn't be too quick to assume your relative was commited to a Mental Institution. These places also had paying guests who had become infirm and unable to look after themselves. If I remember correctly there were three different levels of care according to the fee paid by the "patient" different degrees of comfort, furnisings and food. Guests like this were taken in to defray the cost of running the Hospital.
James.
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duckweed
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The hospital was made up of L shaped buildings, with gardens in between. On one side were the females and the other side males with a dining room in the middle. Even more secluded was a place for richer inmates (this was where Spike Millighan stayed). Different houses would have different types of patients. Obviously all psychiatric institutions had all kinds of patients. There would be those with senile dementia, those with learning difficulties and even those who got pregnant by someone other than their husband, even profoundly deaf people so being in the Crichton would not necessarily mean any type of lunancy. There was not a lot of provision for feeble patients in the local hospital though St Michaels Church did have provision in their house by the church for some elderly people. Some would come in suffering from postnatal depression but because there was no effective treatment and very little reasessment after they were committed if they were there over a year never got the chance to go home. Eventually they became too institutionalised to be able to leave.
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Paul Beck
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Greetings to little prince.
This is my first time and first post on RootsChat.
I am tracing Becks in Dumfries. I have screeds of data from IGI and Census.
Of special interest is the genetic factor Huntingdon's Chorea in my Beck ancestry. I found Beck records from Crichton, which you reference here.
I believe I am linked to the family of John Beck and Elizabeth Sloane of Cummertrees, married ca 1799, through their son William (bn 1800). Do you have Beck data related to them, or including HD sufferers?
Can you say which Beck family of early 1800s you re connected to in Dumfries.
Thanks,
Paul
Melbourne, Australia
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