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poppysmum
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Granpa Wilson and Cousin Dod - Peebles Cemetery
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Hi
My father is researching the history of his house and the local area. He lives near Toward Point near Dunoon, in a parish called Inverchaolain. We have some info about the residents of his house but we would love to hear from anyonw who is researching in this area.
I don't want to give the name of his house for privacy reasons but we are interested in learning more about the entire area anyway!
caroline
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Whytes, Durness; Bulloch, lanarkshire; Wilson, lanarkshire; Wilson, peebleshire; Rickelton, Glasgow; Harris, ayrshire and glasgow ; Steele, ayrshire; Duffy, leith Smith, Leith; Stewart, ayrshire and Glasgow
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poppysmum
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Granpa Wilson and Cousin Dod - Peebles Cemetery
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hi,
replying to my own post!
I just wondered if anyone knew of any other sites i could post this question on, maybe one which would be more specific to this area?
thanks, caroline
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Whytes, Durness; Bulloch, lanarkshire; Wilson, lanarkshire; Wilson, peebleshire; Rickelton, Glasgow; Harris, ayrshire and glasgow ; Steele, ayrshire; Duffy, leith Smith, Leith; Stewart, ayrshire and Glasgow
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Ann Baker
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They're hiding there somewhere!
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Hi Caroline
Dunnoon actually has a family history centre in the town centre but the only sue way of finding out who louved there before your dad is to ask to see the deeds.
Am assuming he has bought the house and therefore the deeds will be with the lawyer that did the conveyancing work.
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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museum man 2
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Might be able to help you with some detail but certainly with an overall and detailed description of the area . I also have at home a very early photograph of the original houses.
Castle House Museum Dunoon.
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Heather Jean
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I'm sorry if I'm doing the wrong thing here. This is my first entry and I'm not sure of the procedures. I can't help on the original topic but was interested in the reply from the Castle House Museum. (Should I be addressing my query here or somewhere else?)
My gg-grandparents were on a croft at Stronyaraig, just out from Inverchaolain.
Archibald Brown and Jane Weir had seven children: Duncan 1810, Mary 1811, Archibald 1813, John 1815, Janet 1818, Alexander 1821 and Jane 1824. John came to Australia in 1854 and he is my great grandfather.
Archibald's parents were Archibald Brown and Mary Mackellar (various spellings) and Jane's were Duncan Weir and Janet Harkness.
I am researching anything I can find on the family and am interested in information about Inverchaolain and Stronyaraig. Any images of these areas would be like a goldmine for me.
Heather
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BROWN / WEIR / HARKNESS / McKELLAR / WHITE / McIVER / LOCHHEAD / CLARK: Inverchaolain, Dunoon, Innellan, Rothesay
McISAAC / ALLAN: Crieff, Perthshire, Stirling, Polmont, Raploch, Fintry
CRAWFORD / BROWN / McKELLAR / FISHER: Bonhill, Dunbarton, Argyll
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museum man 2
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I do not have a lot of time to give you a fuller reply but you have a famous ancestor. Janet Harkness was the first born child of Thomas Harkness and the first of his 3 wives Mary Iver "a native of nether Cowal" Janet was born 22nd. February 1755.
Thomas commonly called "An Gall Ruadh" the Red Stranger came to this area in the early 1700's. There was an article about him in the Scots Magazine as far back as 1808. He was the first person to winter sheep on the hillsides. He amassed a fortune. His remains are in Kilmun churchyard and he has relatives still in Dunoon. I have quite a bit of information about his very extensive family in a rare book called "the History of Cowal"
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museum man 2
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Janet and her husband Duncan Weir of Invervegan had a family of 6 sons and 6 daughters.
In 1808 Thomas had " 67 descendants now living"
If I get time I will try and scan the three pages that refer to this large family.
Thomas's policy, which made him a wealthy man was to " to sell a' and buy nane"
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Heather Jean
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Thank you Museum Man 2!!
I can't believe how fortunate I am that you have that sort of information available on my family going back so far. It opens up so many more pathways for me. I went to Scotlands People tonight and found the will of Thomas Harkness.
Once again, THANK YOU.
Heather
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BROWN / WEIR / HARKNESS / McKELLAR / WHITE / McIVER / LOCHHEAD / CLARK: Inverchaolain, Dunoon, Innellan, Rothesay
McISAAC / ALLAN: Crieff, Perthshire, Stirling, Polmont, Raploch, Fintry
CRAWFORD / BROWN / McKELLAR / FISHER: Bonhill, Dunbarton, Argyll
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sonofcam
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On a loosely related subject, does anyone have experience of surname changes in Inverchaolain parish around 1760?
I am researching a family more recently named Brown for whom there is circumstantial evidence accumulating of a posible family name change from McGilmichal around 1760. For the best example I have two children born to couples with matching husband's forename and wife's full name about two years apart from Kilmichael. I understand that Kilmichael is a very small locality in Glen Fyne which does not exist any more so it is a very large coincidence.
There are several other couples in the same general area that exhibit similar matches either side of the 1760 line.
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Regarding place names, is there likely to be any relationship between what appears to be Goistan-Ionfarge in an 18th century register and the current Goranansaig Farm?
Regards,
David Bailey
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Janet McKellar
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Hello David and others
On the subject of similar place names around Loch Striven, I, too, had been considering Goirtan..asaig and first wondered whether it could be the same place as Goirtanlaois(t)ge. However, I have since realised they are different settlements in the same area.
Goirtan...asaig is close to Kilmichael as you say, while I think Goirtanlaoisge is what showed as Gartan Laoisge on an 1832 map. I now think that must be further north, between Invervegain and (cnoc) Lecknagall, so definitely two different settlements. Gone from view now, though there is still a Garden Wood on almost the exact spot.
So is your GoirtanIonfarge another settlement altogether, or merely yet another spelling /interpretation of Goirtanlaoisge, am wondering now.
Trying to trace ancestors of Archibald McKellar and More NcEwn who raised their children at Goirtan Laoisge in the 1750s and 1760s, the family migrating to Troustan on the other side of Loch Striven by the 1780s.
After examining the local McEwns, I'm now considering whether More might be an unrecorded daughter of Duncan McEwn from Kilmichael who married Mary Ferguson on Bute in 1735. They had children at Goirtan..asaig and Kilmichael.
Hence my trail of these Goirtan settlements.
Hoping to hear more of the history of this area, particularly migration and or clearances of the population.
Katie
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Janet McKellar
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David again,
I, too, would be interested in hearing more about possible name changes between McKilmichal and Brown. My 4 x great grandmother Janet McKellar was from Loch Striven and her brother Duncan McKellar married a Margaret Brown in 1784 who is hard to find in earlier documents. Your suggestion might explain that.
Katie
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Janet McKellar
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Hello Museum Man and others
I quite understand your time's at a premium, but I'm interested in what you say. You mention Thomas Harkness, his daughter Janet and her husband Duncan McNuiar in Invervegain.
When my 4xgreat grandmother Janet McKellar married Patrick Cl(e)ark, in 1781, he was said to be from Glendaruel, but presently servant to Duncan McNuiar tenant in Invervegain.
If there is anything on McKellars in the Loch Striven area, I should be interested to learn where I might find out more.
Thank you,
Katie
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lomond
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I also have relatives from Inverchaolin. John Munn who married Mary Leitch. She was from Kilmodan and her father was Alexander Leitch and mother Mary McNuir/Weir. John died in Greenock in 1856 his parents were given as James and Ann Carmichael Munn. There is a marriage for an Ann Michael which could be his mother I think his father was James Munn and marriage about the same time for an Ann Brown whose children fit in with the age of John Munn. I wonder if there could have been a mistake in the records.
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tindall
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David, Hoping I could reply to you via email as I have a lot of info on the Kilmodan link and your Browns. We may be distantly related. If you know how to connact me, then please do so. I am new to this site and can't work out how to do any more than this link. Heather.
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mcmains, mains, campbell, douglas, sommerville, turner, mckeol, murray, mcfarlane. Kilmodan, Dunoon, Glendarual and Argyle generally.
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