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1901 census look up please
« on: Sunday 29 April 07 11:55 BST (UK) »

Hi can anyone do a lookup for me please?
I am looking for my great gran Lilian Turner (Lillian, Lilly, Lily) who was born 1892-5 on the 1901 census.

Her father was called William Turner, he was a gardener, and her mother was called Harriott.

They were in Shropshire, or surrounding areas.

Thank you.

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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 April 07 12:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Pettsey - if you have her on the 1901, born after 1891 - do you want her parents tracked back in the census years ?

Oh, sorry - misunderstood - will try and find them now in 1901  Wink
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 April 07 12:14 BST (UK) »

Hmmmm - any 2nd name known ?

Can only find a Lily E - but parents are John & Eliza, in Clee St Margaret, Shrops   Huh
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 April 07 12:18 BST (UK) »

Theres a 9 year old Lillian in Shrewsbury - parents William & Harriet - but he is a Railway Labourer (Large family)
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 April 07 12:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Newfy
Thank you for your help.

Her middle name is May, Lilian May Turner.
I think Lilian had one "L" Although she could be down as Lily  Undecided

I would be happy if you could maybe find her parents in 1891, before Lilian was born.
I do not know of any other siblings, so there may be some in 1891.

Thank you.

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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 April 07 12:50 BST (UK) »

There is a Lilian May on freeBDM
Births Dec 1892   Turner Lilian May Atcham 6a 603
Atcham spans the boundaries of the counties of Montgomeryshire and Shropshire

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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 April 07 13:42 BST (UK) »

Hi Trish
Thank you, that must be her.
Her parents were born in Atcham, as was my Nan.

I have since found out that Harriet's middle name was Annie.
I hope her birth is easy to find. I am guessing she was born in Shropshire.

Thank you for you help.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 April 07 14:12 BST (UK) »

Hi Pettsy.

I would tend to go with Newfys lot that he found in Shrewsbury in 1901 even if it did say that william was a railway worker, 

on the 1891 census harriet gives her age as 29, thus born 1863,

Harriet ann rogers  birth Shrewsbury March 1863 6a 691

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Mar 1882    Harriet ann rogers   Atcham  6a  1045
Mar 1882    William turner          Atcham  6a   1045

Might be worth looking at,  I cannot find a William married to harriet who is a gardener around Shrewsbury,  Im guessing you got williams occupation off Lillians mar/cert, Is it possible he had left the railway by then and was looking for a quiter life.

again I am most prob miles out Smiley Smiley

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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 April 07 15:18 BST (UK) »

If looking for 1901 - don't search on Lillian - the family are on 2 pages with name variations - but I think this is the lot that Newfy found

1901 Shropshire St Mary Shrewsbury RG13/2537 10/12
William Turner head M 41 railway labourer shrewsbury
harriet wife m 38 shrewsbury
Edith dau S 17 dom servant Preston Gubbals Salop
Thomas son S 16 railway labourer do
William son 13 do
sarah Alice dau 11 do
Lillian dau 9  do
Nelly dau 7 do
Bertie son 5 do
Florence dau 3 Shewsbury
George son 1m Shewsbury

1891 Shropshire Preston Gubbals RG12/2108 6/5
No 13 Old Woods
William Turner head M 31 general labourer Shrewsbury Salop
Harriet Ann do wife M 28 Shrewsbury Salop
Edith do daur 7 scholar Old Woods Preston Gubbals
Thomas do son 6 do
William Ernest do son 3 do
Sarah Alice do daur 1 do

Can't see William in 1881, this may be 1871

1871 Shropshire St Mary Shrewsbury RG10/2771 13/17
Thos Turner head mar 42 overlooKevin? Thread Facty Salop Uffington
Eliz do wife do 42 Salop Shrewsbury
Mary Ann do daur U 18 Factory operative do do
Wm do son 11 scholar do do
Georgina do daur 7 scholar do do
Ernest Jas do son 2 do do

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PS Your information sure looks to be the same Pete Smiley





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Re: 1901 census look up please
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 April 07 15:32 BST (UK) »

Wow thank you so much everyone  Grin

Trish that is them.
I just rang my Nan's sister for names of Lilian's siblings and she gave me, Edith, Ellen,Florence,Bert,Sid and George.
Looks them then, and some other siblings too  Grin


PS Pete you are correct, William was a Gardener on Lily's marriage cert  Wink

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 April 07 15:42 BST (UK) »

I assume Ellen is Nellie, Thomas was not in your list  Huh & perhaps Sid is the youngest. Quite a family  Smiley Your nan's sister probably knew most of them.  Smiley She should have lots of most useful information for you.  I knew most of my G aunts but rarely talked to them about family - much regretted now, of course.

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 April 07 20:36 BST (UK) »

Yes, thats the family I saw - kids on 2nd page were given a 'variant' surname - classic !

Pleased you got a result  Smiley
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LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 April 07 20:57 BST (UK) »

I telephoned my great aunt with the info you had found for me.
She is very pleased.  Wink

When I mentioned Thomas, she said "Yes that was the name I was thinking off"  Grin

I think I found Harriet Rogers in 1881 visiting William Turner, 77 years old.
I don't know where Lily's father William is though  Huh
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 April 07 00:19 BST (UK) »

Yes, thats the family I saw - kids on 2nd page were given a 'variant' surname - classic !


Polite way of saying what I thought Newfy - especially as I spent some time looking for your 9 year old Lilian Turner  Grin

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Good find of Harriet with father in law - I can't see William Jnr either - sorry
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 April 07 09:51 BST (UK) »

I am not sure if it is William father, it may even be his grandfather.

William was born in 1860, and Harriet in 1863.
William senior was born in 1804, more likely to be the grandfather, what do you think?
Once I order Williams birth cert, I will get parents names.

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