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Topic: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed (Read 5477 times)
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dollylee
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After seeing all the beautiful restores of the picture I recently posted my interest has also been peeked in learning to restore pictures myself.
My program doesn't "clone" so I went into paint, grabbed a spray can and instantly learned that it takes talent, artistic ability and patience. I dare not say which posted picture I practiced on but the poor dear lady looked like she should be standing on a street corner in the middle of the night plying her wares (read body).
May I suggest that in order to made the best use of the restorers valuable time that we request this thread become a sticky post on the restoration board???
(and stop snickering ALL of you who tried and tried to teach me how to reduce a picture properly.....I finally got it ) 
dollylee
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mudge
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Hi CP and Dolly
If you get Photoshop Elements, I'd also be willing to offer assistance as and when required.
Whilst I had much of the basic knowledge when I joined this site, in November 2006, I've still learned a lot more from the other Restorers, and the practice and encouragement received have certainly improved my application skills tenfold (no adverse comments from the masses please  )
Mudge
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Woodentop50
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Scan your photos at 300to600 ppi..........or else
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I'd thought I would jump in here ,
I too , have gained quite a bit of knowledge since being on here , learning techniques and just as important , some of the technical points.
At the present I use PaintshopPro 9 , but soon I will be updating , as to which way , I don't know yet. Some who use Photoshop seem to get a better result , but how much is down to their individual knowledge and ability. An experienced and artistic person could create more with a cheap package , than an inexperienced person with a top of the range package.
Another little point , is 'add-ons' , plug-ins can make a vast addition to the end result , whether it is for the true restoration or for special effect (not that I use these much) 
One question to the board :
For those of you who use Graphics tablets , would you say that they make a difference and are they worth buying ?
CP : Whatever software you use , don't try to compete with others , just enjoy what you are doing , then you will soon fit in to your niche. After a few weeks you will soon be as mad as us.
  
I think thats enough from me !
Jim
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WOOD in Hunslet area of Leeds , West Yorkshire
WOOD in Knottingley , West Yorkshire
Scan your photos at 300 to 600 ppi for best results
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dennford
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One question to the board :
For those of you who use Graphics tablets , would you say that they make a difference and are they worth buying ?
CP : Whatever software you use , don't try to compete with others , just enjoy what you are doing , then you will soon fit in to your niche. After a few weeks you will soon be as mad as us.
Jim
Can you remember the first time you used a mouse and how difficult it was. Strange enough even though a graphics tablet and pen is exactly like drawing with a pen (well, almost) it will seem strange at first.
I do believe though that using the tablet and pen is more natural. For myself there is another advantage - I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis and the graphics tablet/pen makes life much easier for me.
Remember though; these devises don't come cheap and unles you are really serious, then the benefit may be doubtfull.
As for your second comment there are rootschatters out there who consistantly turn out brilliant work - I wouldnt' dream of trying to compete; yet I still submit my inferior work: the thing is to try your best and enjoy the learning process.
Denn
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SheilaM
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As for your second comment there are rootschatters out there who consistantly turn out brilliant work - I wouldnt' dream of trying to compete; yet I still submit my inferior work: the thing is to try your best and enjoy the learning process.
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I have posted a couple of photo's for restore on this board and the restorers have done a brilliant job.
Denn - You're work isn't inferior, believe me. It is nice to know that we, the learners, can post our first efforts and not disappoint anyone. I've tried a couple and wondered what they would look like when posted, so may give the next one a go.
I too have RA and sometimes that damn mouse just won't do what it's told.
Sheila
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Cazza59
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I'm lucky enough to have both Elements and the full PS (thanks to someone who will remain nameless  ), however I choose to use Elements as that's what I taught myself to use initially. The differences between the full PS and Elements are minimal except for a massive price difference.
Elements doesn't have curves and channels but there are other options to compensate. Plus I've added features to Elements myself. So I bought the cheaper software and upgraded it (free) so it's probably superior than the full PS and a fraction of the cost. If cost is not a consideration then go for the full version but try not to faint at the price difference!
Personally I don't think it's the package itself that makes the difference as they all have the same tools, but rather what you do with them and how adept you become at using them. I know people that use totally free packages and get just as good results as PS users. It just takes practice. When I look back on my first restores and even current ones I cringe (my apologies to those whose pics I mutilated ) but everyone has to start somewhere. The main thing is to not compete but have fun and don't be afraid to post your efforts because they will be appreciated!
Most of the restores done on here that are "super" clean and look near perfect aren't achieved using PS or Elements anyway, but rather with free filtering software like Noiseware that works extremely well if the pic is black and white or basic sepia and scanned at the correct dpi (if not correct dpi too much definition is lost). It just takes a couple of seconds to use and you don't have to know much about restoration to use it, so when people say "here's a quickie", they are not lying (giving away restorers secrets here now  ). If you combine that with an editing package containing the basics, you really have everything you need to get you started as an amateur hobbiest, plus you save a bundle.
Poll, Gadget and myself all use graphics tablets and highly recommend them, particularly for fine detail work as it gives you more control. Sometimes I have the pen in my left hand and the mouse in my right working on a pic LOL.
Blimey..sorry I raved on so much!
Caz
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cornishpasty
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Denn,
I'm listening mate. I have added those 2 websites that you and Caz gave me, to my Faves and will be checking them out soon.
Unfortunately I have to start packing as I am on the move next week. Then I will have to wait a few days before I am re-connected to phone and internet. Hope they don't take a week. I will then get stuck into all the reading. I'm really looking forward to it.
Good to see we have another newby on board - Sheila, welcome to our Workshop.
Hugs to all our Teachers
CP
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mudge
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Stop Press Caz can multitask, (pen and mouse together!) you seen it first here
Cheers
Mudge
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Siora
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Hi,
I was so pleased to see this thread.
I often look at the restorations that are done with admiration and would like to be able to attempt a little more than I have at present (red eye etc).
Looking at what I have on computer I see I have Adobe Photoshp Elements but must be old 2.00 and Arc Soft Photo Studio 5.5 and something called Picture Gear Studio which I don't think I have ever looked at.
Anyway will read everything with interest. Thanks.
Siora
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cornishpasty
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Hey Jim,
I never compete and I'm mad already so I will fit in nicely. Hehehehe
Just reading about Caz's pen in one hand and mouse in the other and the "tablets" ............. methinks I had better hop onto the computer in between packing and do some serious reading.
Thanks to all of you wonderful people for your advice and offers of help. You sure are a great bunch.
If I don't answer you, you know where I am - packing! 
Hugs
CP
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