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Topic: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed (Read 5530 times)
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dollylee
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Thank you Glen and Tomkin.
I will try and reinstall it and hope it works. I paid a heck of a lot more money for it than Tomkin did and may just throw the whole damn machine out the window if it doesn't work.
I know that dennford aka oddenn would realize that I would never pass off his tutorial as my own. I just think it is considerate to ask permission when copying someones works if even just for my own use.
Now back to the important tutorials.
dollylee
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Gadget
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Tomkin, petal 
You get hugs and kisses from me everyday 
Now back to serious tutorials.
Not read all the thread but my advice is to go for it - just play and doodle first and get to know the various tools. Start small and work on it!
Gadget
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Gadget
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Tomkin
Why don't you do a bit of restoration on yourself - a nice blue tone would go down a treat on a Thursday
Gadget - gone curly again 'cos they say it suits me
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dollylee
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And people wonder how threads go astray......I think they are both tucked safely in bed for the night and we can resume the serious business of photo restoration.
p.s. thanks Gadget the hug was lovely. I'm glad you have gone curly again because as we all know they are never wrong 
Tomkin... do try and behave... life isn't always fair 
dollylee
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dennford
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here is a pic for the next tute
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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I had a bit of a spell from the tutorial over the past week (other things to do), but anyhow here we are back into it.
We shall leave the cloning bit alone for a while and maybe return to it later. That way it gives a chance to have a play with the cloning and related tools, and sort out any problems that crop up with them. Also we shall leave our old friend for a short while and work on a coloured pic’ instead.
We are going to have a look at tone and colour correction. With a basic knowledge of cloning and the ability to correct colour and tone you can then at least make most pictures presentable, meaning that you have a good foundation on which to add other restoration skills.
I have posted a picture exactly as scanned from a 40 year old slide, being agfa film it has deteriorated to a terrible green. Before doing anything else crop and rotate the image. Rotating will involve two stages – first rotate 90degrees, then do the arbitrary rotation as in the first tute. When you crop, don’t crop for composition yet – just crop out the black background.
We are now ready to attempt to get that image somewhere near to its original colour. There are several ways to do it but we shall start with levels – mainly because elements doesn’t have a curves adjustment (What is curves? I have heard curves described as levels on steroids)
1 Make sure that your layers box is visible on your desktop, if not go to window-layers and tick to make it visible. If you don’t know what a layer is – don’t worry for the time being, just accept it as an overlay that has the ability to change the appearance of your pic’
2 At the bottom of the layers box is an icon called the adjustment layers (1), click on that and from the drop down list click levels (2), this opens the levels dialogue box (3)
3 Inside the levels dialogue box are several tools, I shall only discuss the ones that are important to us at this time. Clicking on auto (4) will automatically adjust the levels without having to do anything else. Although this will often do the trick, don’t rely on it; get to know how to do the job manually for the times that auto just isn’t up to it.
4 The preview (5) allows you to visually see what is happening
5 The next three items we shall use together The three eyedroppers (6) allow you to set the darkest, the lightest and a neutral part of the picture: (7) allows you to adjust all the colours together (rgb) or adjust each colour separately: While ( 8 ) the graph (more correctly called a histogram) indicates how much of a colour we have and where it is in the scheme of things – don’t worry I shall not even try to explain the intricacies of these last three, simply how to use them to get what we want.
6 To adjust the levels manually there are two ways, irrespective of whether you do it as a composite rgb channel, or do each channel separately I shall describe both methods using the composite channel.
7 The first method is to use the eye droppers. Decide on a point on the picture that you believe should be white and a point that you believe should be black. On our pic’ of the anthills I am using the guy’s foot as the white point and the shadow of the r/h anthill for the black point. Now make the white eye dropper active and click on white part of the guy’s shoe, if everything goes completely off colour you have inadvertently clicked off target so just try again in that area until you see what you think is an improvement on the original. Now make the black eye dropper active and do the same for your black point. If you are happy with the result then you could leave it at that, however if you think it still isn’t what you want you can now try to find a neutral point. Make the centre eye dropper active and click that one on what you consider should be a neutral grey – this is the most difficult one to judge because while black and white are easy to judge, the neutral grey is a matter of personal judgment.
8 Now if you are happy and certain that you won’t need to adjust it again you can flatten the image – you are of course working on a copy rather than your original – aren’t you?
9 Sometimes it can be difficult to decide where the black, white and neutral points are, in which case there is a way of finding out for the b& w but unfortunately not for the neutral (that one is always going to be up to your own judgment. Here’s how: On the menu bar go image-adjustments-threshold. In the box that opens up you will see a slider underneath the graph, slide it to both the left and the right – you will see the image fade into all black then all white. If you slide it just far enough so that you have just the last little bit of white showing – that is your white point. If you wish you can even place a temporary marker on that point by hovering your curser (now an eye dropper) over the spot, holding your shift key and clicking on the point. Do the same for the black point and then cancel the threshold box. The markers will reappear temporarily when you open your levels.
Method two will follow in the next post
Denn
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« Last Edit: Monday 28 May 07 08:44 UTC (UK) by dennford »
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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mudge
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Just thought I'd put it back at the top for everyone's benefit
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dollylee
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Thanks again dennford for taking the time to update the tutorial. I am sure lots of people are following it and learning a lot.
I am not up to the point where you are, but I am saving these as they show up. Had a few problems and had to reinstall the program and now I am off to Vegas for a week but will try and catch up when I get back.
It is really generous of you to take the time and trouble to do this for all of those of us wishing to learn.
Thanks !!
dollylee
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dennford
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Going to make a fortune at the tables eh? Have a good time.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dollylee
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Thanks denn.
I have my "might as well flush it down the toilet" money in my purse...and trips to the bank machine are not allowed!!!
Temps are supposed to be 30-35 C. so the only thing I will probably come home with is a tan. (
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cornishpasty
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Hi Everyone,
I haven't left the planet - I'm back now and ready to start reading (first) before I even attempt anything  .
Just wanted to say a big thank you to Denn and give you some cuddles and some  for the great tutorials and for simplifying things for us "newbies". You sure have been busy Denn and I really appreciate all your hard work. Thanks also to darling Cazza - another wonderful Restorer. Thanks also to everyone else who has contributed - you sure are a great bunch of mates.
Thank you Paul for all your special help too .
Now to start reading and learning  .
Hugs
CP
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dennford
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It's a while since I did anything on here, I hadn't forgotton - just been so busy lately. Anyhow I should have the next one up soon.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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