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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #75 on: Monday 28 May 07 10:05 UTC (UK) »

   If you managed to follow the last tute, then this one should be a breeze. It is just one more way to use your levels to adjust colour and tone. Now! Instead of using the eye droppers, we will use those sliders to do our adjustment.

   But first let’s talk about that graph that we call a histogram. In simple terms what it tells us is how much of a colour we have in the picture and where it is. So if we take the full width of the frame as representing  a full range of a colour, and the graph only spans half of the frame then it means that we are missing 50% of that colour (it is a little more complex than that but let’s not do complex on here eh!)

   To take that a step further the edges of the frame can be represented by the arrows at either end, the right hand arrow is white (representing pure colour), while the left hand one is black (representing absolute lack of colour). If this is the case then it isn’t difficult to see that if the graph doesn’t stretch as far as the edge (of which one is black and one white) then the picture does not contain that pure black or white. The question is though how do we get that black or white? Simple, we stretch the graph to reach the edges – or bring the edges in to meet the graph.
   
   How? Open up the pic' that I have posted on this tute, then follow the last tute as far as opening the levels dialogue box: It doesn’t take a genius to realize that this pic’ is flat and lifeless – in fact there is no pure black or pure white and of course when we look at the histogram, there is the proof - the graph falls short at both ends.

   If you take the sliders at each end of the histogram and slide them in towards the graph until they reach the point where the graph starts to rise, you should notice that the blacks and the whites begin to materialize.

   Of course what you have done here is to adjust the composite of red, green and blue, which for most pictures would be absolutely fine. However for this pic’ it is still not really great. The reason being that if we looked at each of the three colours separately that colour’s graph would be different to the others.

   Not a problem, because we can adjust each one of them separately. At the top of the levels dialogue box you will see a channels selector set at the rgb. Rather than worry about the rgb, select from the drop down menu each channel in turn and follow the above procedure of adjusting those sliders to meet the graph.

   Most of the time you will find the above to be quite adequate, but there will be times you want to do a little more. Firstly you might like to try and “clip” the black or white point. this means taking the slider a little further than the beginning of the graph to bring a little more black or white into the pic’. This can safely be done where you have small areas of shadow that don’t matter if they turn completely black, or maybe some sky area or highlight that you don’t need to see the detail in. The other adjustment you may wish to play with is the arrow that you see in the centre of the graph, by sliding this to the left or right it will alter the contrast of the channel you are using.

                                 Give it a try and dont be afraid to experiment

                                                          Denn


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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 05:11 UTC (UK) »

I've crept in to the back of the class, hoping no-one has noticed I'm late.  Smiley

This is a great tutorial, Denn, much needed for us novices.  I shall be following it religiously.  Thank you for your patience in explaining procedures fully and not assuming we already have some level of experience in using these packages.

Any chance this thread could be made a 'sticky'?

Cheers

George

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This topic will not be made a 'sticky' as we have too many good topics here,
all crying out to be stickied  Smiley

However, this topic is stickied, and it includes a link to this tutorial Smiley Smiley
Topic: RootsChat Topics: Tutorials and Tips for Restoring, Colourising and Montages

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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 10:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dennford

Just making myself known. Have been following this course with fascination. Thank you so much you have revolutionised my Phot techniques and enabled me to understand a package I have so far been unable to get to grips with. Thanky ou for all your efforts, keep going I am glued to the thread

Alan
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 11:48 UTC (UK) »

Alan, George and everyone else,

       There is much to learn with photoshop (and similar programmes), so what we are doing here will only touch the surface. It is very difficult to know where to start with the tutes because there is no one part of photoshop that is of any more importance than another but little by little it will all come together.
       I believe that although photoshop appears to be a complex prog', it's a bit like an ant eating an elephant - if he takes it one bite at a time - one day he will come to the realisation that it's nearly all gone.
       The difference with photoshop of course that while we're eating away, those people at "Adobe" keep adding to it.


               Anyhow I shall leave you to it,

                                             Denn

                                     
       
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 11:51 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Denn...I have found all your hints and tips really helpful Cheesy
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 14:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Denn,

             I think you have done enough and far more than enough.

            Well Done mate. Next time I'm over the "Tops" I'll
         drink a pint  ( or two ) for you.

                   Tomkin Grin

                   
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 15:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tomkin,
      Your task is a s follows,

Sunday lunchtime

            When the pubs open at 1200 you must drink one pint at he "Nags head" Edale.

             Go over the top of Kinder Scout and have a second pint in the "Snake Inn".

              Return back over "Kinder" and have a your third pint back at the "Nags" before it closes at for the Sunday lunch session.

                                            Good luck
                                                   Denn
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 15:07 UTC (UK) »

Sorry everyone else,
          But Tomkin will understand that last post.

                                              Denn
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 29 May 07 15:41 UTC (UK) »

  Yes Denn,
                      But Am I allowed to carry some six packs with me?

                This walkings thirsty work tha' Nose.

                           Tomkin Grin
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #84 on: Friday 07 September 07 13:10 UTC (UK) »

See below made a mess of this one

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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #85 on: Friday 07 September 07 13:10 UTC (UK) »

For those who have difficulties using written tutorials.
If you go to 'YouTube' and search for 'photoshop tutorials' there a great number of video turorials on the site that are posted by other photoshop users to help others learn a vast variety of different techniques that can be used for many different jobs

Hope these can help

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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #86 on: Wednesday 12 September 07 14:41 UTC (UK) »

This has been fascinating, just marking it so I can come back, many thanks to you all for the bits I've read and had a go at so far  Smiley
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Re: I want to learn Photo Restoration - Guidance needed
« Reply #87 on: Thursday 06 November 08 13:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi All

Just recieved into some old photos and the restorers have done a great job but I have so many I decided to have a look at the tutorials and WOW
Thank you for such detailed ones Denn.

We have Paintshop 7 but may aquire Photshop. You explain what everything does much simpler than the Indexes on these programmes!! Must have a go.

Thanks everyone

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