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1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« on: Wednesday 25 May 05 17:00 BST (UK) »

Hello, Would really appreciate it if SKS could look up this family
am trying to find father's name - possibly Robert. Here is the family in 1861.

Water Street, Bollington
Mary Knowles wid 69 b Bakewell Derby
Henry son wid age 45
Hannah daug age 45
Sarah daug age 26

also living next door....
William Knowles age 41 (Mary's son)
Hannah wife 34
Ann daug age 15
Mary daug 10
Thomas son age 5

Many Thanks in advance
Pauline
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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 May 05 17:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline

              Here are the 1851 details, also found the family in 1841 as well.

1851 HO107-2158-F437 Bollington Road Bollington

Mary Knowles head wid 59 house keeper Bakewell Derbyshire
Henry              son         35 cotton weaver   ~
Hannah          daug       33 card tenter
Sarah                            16  ~      ~

1851 HO107-2158-F460  Beestall Road Bollington

William Knowles head 31 stone mason Alport Derbyshire
Hannah              wife 24                       Marple Cheshire
Ann                    daug 5                        Bollington

1841 HO107-104-08-Page 1    Water Lane Bollington

Robert Knowles 50 coal dealer not born in county
Mary                  50
Henry                25 weaver
Hannah             23 cotton worker
William              20 ag/lab
Joseph               19 weaver
Jacob                  15 cotton piecer
John                    14 ~
Sarah                  6 scholar born in county

There is a death indexed for a Robert Knowles march quarter 1849 at Bakewell see free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

hope this helps

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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 May 05 18:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter, This is more than I could have hoped for -  I have found
marriage's and birth's for the family on the LDS site but had to have proof that the father was Robert.
Cannot thank you enough for all this info!!!
Regards
Pauline
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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 March 07 23:56 GMT (UK) »

Dear Pauline
I have just come across your post in 2005 about the Knowles family of Bollington, Cheshire.  I am also very interested in them and have been taking a close look at them this evening.  On the 1861 Census as well as the widowed Mary Knowles and her family, also in the household at Water Street on that night is Ralph Knowles, widower aged 67 'lodger'. Ralph Knowles is my gggg grandfather. He married Mary Pheasey in Bakewell in 1815 and later moved to Macclesfield (close to Bollington).  Mary died in 1858.  Although Ralph is listed merely as a lodger, I strongly suspect that he was in fact Mary Knowles (head of household)  brother in law.  I believe that Mary's husband Robert who was also from Bakewell may have been Ralph's brother.  Robert Knowles m. Mary Matkin in 1813 in Bakewell and they had numerous children born in Bakewell, Derbyshire and Youlgreave, Derbyshire, later moving to Bollington.  There is a Joseph Knowles of Bakewell who married a Dorothy Matkin in 1816 and they also moved to Bollington, Cheshire. I suspect that Joseph may be another brother of Ralph and Robert. When Ralph Knowles died in 1870, a person named Hamilton registered the death.  I have found two marriages in Bakewell, in 1822, where a Jane Knowles married a Jonathan Hamilton and a Rebecca Knowles married a Daniel Hamilton(Daniel Hamilton later moved to Macclesfield).  I think Jane and Rebecca may be sisters of Ralph, Robert and Joseph. Hope you can reply - Carol
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 May 07 14:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline
This is another Pauline. 
Do you know the parents of your Ralph and Robert. Could they possibly be children of Robert and Sarah of Alport?
Siblings of Hannah and John?
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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 May 07 18:43 BST (UK) »

Dear Pauline
Thanks for getting in touch
No unfortunately I do not know who Ralph's parents were
Knowles is a fairly common name and I have not found anything on the IGI that
gave me a clue
Did Robert and Sarah of Alport have sons named Ralph & Robert - if so were they siblings of Hannah and John? Did Hannah and John end up in Cheshire also ?
Sorry to be vague but I am stuck with Ralph.  Shame the other Pauline did not reply as she was definately looking at the same family as me and I hoped she may know something more to help me get farther back.
Also I think Alport is in Derbyshire near Bakewell ?
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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Re: 1851 Lookup Knowles in Bollington
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 May 07 19:51 BST (UK) »

No.  I haven't got any other siblings, apart from John and Hannah but Sarah Knowles nee Marshall's parents were Ralph and Rebecca Marshall.  I too was clutching at straws.
Cheshire and Derbyshire are not that far apart.
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