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ADAMS William - Gunsmith
« on: Sunday 13 May 07 13:48 BST (UK) »

Hi, I am trying to find this chap and am getting nowhere. All I really have to go on is his occupation - Gun Maker. I have him in the '41 and '51 census and I believe he died before the '61 census. He lived in Biggleswade, Bedford and Potton between 1840 and 1847. Is there any way I can find him through his job? I can't seem to find any gunmakers in Beds. He was born in London abt 1815 and with a name like his it's a needle in a haystack!
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:21 BST (UK) »

William Adams died before 1861, as I've found his widow & 3 children living in Bull Lane, St Ives

RG9/979  Folio: 34  Page: 28

Alice Adams age 45, widow, born Godmanchester, Hunts ; Seamstress
William Adams, age 15, son, born Biggleswade ; Drover ?
Emma L Adams, age 11, daughter, born Bedford   
James Adams, age 7, son, born St Ives    ** loss one eye noted on census sheet

So with James b 1854; I'd go for William Adam's death index in St Ives RD Sept qtr 1853 vol 3b page 142 
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:23 BST (UK) »

On 1861, his eldest daughter Alice Adams age 21 born Biggleswade, is working as a servant in Islington
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:34 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that, I'm not used to dealing with surnames like Adams! Is that James who's lost an eye? Poor lad, I wonder what happened? Thanks for finding his death, I can find an approx dob from his cert with luck! All I have for his birth is "London"!
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:44 BST (UK) »

He seems to have married Alice Yeardye on 26 Oct 1838 at Godmanchester. The marriage certificate should provide his father's name, which will be a start at least

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            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:54 BST (UK) »

David, I saw that Cooper, but that's not him...

1841 in Biggleswade is Will Adams, age 25 Gunsmith with wife Alice & daughter Alice age 1.

HO107; Piece 2; Book: 6;  Folio: 7; Page: 8.
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:56 BST (UK) »

The FreeBMD marriage index is Huntingdon RD vol 14 page 301 Dec 1838

She's listed as Alice Geardye !
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:56 BST (UK) »

Sorry, amended my message having realised the same thing John. Your message obviously came through while I was amending, and unlike a new message you don't get a red warning!

Just found the marriage on the BVRI. His father is Joseph Adams, hers Endersbye Yeardye

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            Potton:  Merrill
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            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 May 07 17:01 BST (UK) »

1841 has a family in Godmanchester - so most likely is Alice's lot

Enoy / Endy ? Yeardye, age 60 ; Grocer
Eliz'th Yeardye, age 60
Jemima Yeardye, age 15
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 May 07 19:37 BST (UK) »

Thanks for all that! I have a lot of the Yeardye family, but was stumped by the name Adams as Yeardy is far easier to deal with and most of my names are unusual ones! Would it be likely that Joseph Adams was a Gunmaker too? Thanks again, Jo
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 May 07 19:55 BST (UK) »

He might have been; alternatively William could have been apprenticed to a gunsmith. But I have to admit you've not got a lot to work with.

London. Very helpful.

I suppose it's the gunsmith that offers you your best hope.

Good luck

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            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Adams,William - Gunsmith
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 May 07 20:03 BST (UK) »

That was my feeling! I've just searched the 1841 census for Joseph Adams born between 1770-1795, but no gunmakers yet!
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