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millymcb
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Hi Bobbyg
Don't worry about the birth date too much on the 1841 census...they are often a few years out as they used to round the ages to multiples of 5. So if you expect him to be 33 (as per the later census) then they would have actually written 30. 
I am presuming that the Lucy in the 1841 is possibly his sister but there is nothing there to say either way.
Here's an option for Emma's death which is about the right age - but obviously you'd need to confirm
Deaths Jun 1885
Garner Emma age 73 Stoke T. 6b 111
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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millymcb
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Unless he married twice of course...and Lucy is wife No1
Or as you say - it's not him!
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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millymcb
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It does sound likely but the only way to be sure is to get birth and marriage certificates etc... Census info is useful but you can only make assumptions without anything to reference against. 
There are only two children listed in all these Census... do you know which is your grandparent or have we missed someone?
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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I think the first one is him,Lucy is the daughter that married an Architect...
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell, hepburn,finney,james, nottingham,pollard,grice, derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe. new zealand,turton canada,carson. australia,mitchell,scalley,   |
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millymcb
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Good luck..Let us know if you get any more info.
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Emma, w/o Robert GARNER F.R.C.S,
Of Stoke upon Trent and eldest d/o
William BISHOP Esq of Shelton Hall 1 May 1885, 73
Robert, above, 4 March 1808 - 16 August 1890
he is in St Peter Ad Vincula Stoke...
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell, hepburn,finney,james, nottingham,pollard,grice, derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe. new zealand,turton canada,carson. australia,mitchell,scalley, |
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http://www.thepotteries.org/buildings/shelton_hall.htm
I think you are going to have fun doing your family...
Back to 1790 in one fell swoop...
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell, hepburn,finney,james, nottingham,pollard,grice, derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe. new zealand,turton canada,carson. australia,mitchell,scalley, |
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https://secure.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7634279&queryType=1&resultcount=71740
here is Ephraims will,you can download it for £3-50...
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell, hepburn,finney,james, nottingham,pollard,grice, derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe. new zealand,turton canada,carson. australia,mitchell,scalley, |
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