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James Ross (c.1864)
« on: Friday 26 October 07 16:23 BST (UK) »

Hello Rootschatters,
I was hoping for some help with regards to finding out birth and death records for James Ross. Here is what I know of him:

He was born around 1864, son to James Henry Ross and Jane Johnston. I have no record for their marriage although both died in Abderdeen (Dec 1896 + Feb 1897).

In 1888 he married Williamina Kemp in Peterhead.
He is listed as being alive in 1906 on the event of his daughter's wedding.

His widow died in Glasgow 1929, thus he died somtime between 1906-29.

He is proving to be rather elusive.
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Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 October 07 17:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Windsor,

Seems he was born in St Fergus, Banffshire on the 9th of September 1864. There's a marriage for his parents (James Ross to Jean Johnston) on the 18th of June 1852 in Peterhead, Aberdeenshire.

As for deaths, I think your best bet is looking in Aberdeenshire. I can't see any likely possibilities in the Glasgow area. Have you tried this one?

1917   ROSS   JAMES      M   54   ST NICHOLAS   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/01 0375

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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 October 07 18:22 BST (UK) »

One of the bad points about having folk living on a boundary line that moves. So he was born in Banff, not Abderdeenshire.

I'll look up all of those.
Thanks again Hume!
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 October 07 18:35 BST (UK) »

The 1917 death is not him unfortunately, but it is his birth record.

His parents seem to think that they married some time in July 1852 in St Fergus.  Grin
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 October 07 19:59 BST (UK) »

Just in case you don't have this, he is on the 1901 census at 61 Menzies Road with family:


James Ross 37 -  born Aberdeenshire, occupation - Cooper, wood
Williamina 37 - born Peterhead
Mary Bella 12
Arthur 10
Elizabeth 8
Edith 5
James 3
William 8 months
Alexander MacDonald 24

I know it's not what you are looking for at the moment but it may help when tracking down his death record.

Cheers,

Jen
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 October 07 22:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks genjen!
Looks like he confused the census people as well. St. Fergus is in Banffshire, not Aberdeenshire. Or perhaps he didn't know.

By the way, James and Williamina are my g g g grandparents.
Their daughter, Mary Bella (1889-1946), is my g g grandmother.

Thanks again.

Windsor
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 October 07 22:35 BST (UK) »

Sorry that the 1917 wasn't your James' death record. Sad

Here's some Glasgow area ones that might be him:

1918   ROSS   JAMES    M   53   DENNISTOUN   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK   644/04 1234   
1921   ROSS   JAMES    M   59   GORBALS   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK        644/17 0082

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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 October 07 12:46 BST (UK) »

I'm afraid it was neither of them either.

I got excited when I saw Gorbals becuase that is where Williamina died in 1929. Her son Arthur, with whol I assume she was living, signed the register.

Thanks for looking though.
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 October 07 12:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Windsor,

He's certainly proving to be a tricky find. Smiley Have you looked at any of his other children's marriages that may narrow down the date of death even more?

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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 October 07 21:44 BST (UK) »

Hi Windsor,

Thought I would add a bit about St Fergus.  Up until 1st May1891, St Fergus belonged to

Banffshire...after that it belonged to Aberdeenshire.

http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Stfergus/index.html

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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 October 07 22:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Windsor,

He's certainly proving to be a tricky find. Smiley Have you looked at any of his other children's marriages that may narrow down the date of death even more?

hume24

Looks like the census record will come in hand after all.  Smiley
Elaine - I knew that the boundaries had changed at some point, but wasn't sure when or which way. Thanks.  Smiley
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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Re: James Ross (c.1864)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 November 07 10:15 GMT (UK) »

Just to say that I am still looking. There are just quite alot of Ross's out there.
Should I find my James Ross, I will let you know.
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Aberdeenshire/Banffshire:
Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...

Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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