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suffolkmawther
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As I have only been researching in Canada for about 24 hours I hope you will forgive me if I am asking for things which are actually not available.
I have been checking out some web site which 'Jeffandro' has kindly passed on and have found what could be my Suffolk bor arriving in Cda.
Charles Stephen Bartlett
Age 28
Country of birth England
Date ship arrived 05 June 1910
Ship - Lake Champlain at Quebec Ports
His address when he signed up for Service in WWI was Lemburg Saskatchewan.
Is it possible to find a Census record for 1911 - where can I find this information please?
I have found the Olive Tree web site link http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/sask.shtml
very useful, but I am still a bit bewildered (although that is nothing new for me 
Any help or advice gladly accepted.
By the way - I have no connection to this family, although I have a lot of information on them in their home village of Little Waldingfield, Suffolk. Unfortunately Charles is one of the names on our War Memorial in the village. I am researching the young men of our village who died in WWI and later I shall be researching those who died in WWII.
Many thanks
SM ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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Elizabeth Revel
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Hi SM,
I checked the 1911 census but was unable to find your Charles Stephen Bartlett.
There were a couple of men about the right age but each of them was married and your man gave his father as next of kin on his attestation papers so presume he was not a family man.
The Canadian Census can be found at
http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
The 1911census is not yet fully transcribed so if you check back you may find him later.
Beth
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Lancashire and Cheshire: Harding, Turner, Gandy, Rigby, Bancroft, Moorcroft, Wright Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall |
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suffolkmawther
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Thank you so much for looking for me Beth,
As Charles gave his parents as his next of kin I guess he never married.
(I have those details from the CWGC web site).
I am just typing up his family story to go in our Parish Magazine for next month.
Appreciate the help and the link too.
SM ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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dollylee
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I did find this on Automated 1911 Census:
1911 Census /Saskatchewan /Saltcoats/7 Townships 18 / page 10
Saltcoats township, Enumeration district 7 Enumeration district description: 19, 20 in ranges 9, 10 west of the 2nd M, and Lemberg Town
Unfortunately the original is all but unreadable it's so faint but the transcription says:
line 10
Named: Charles Bartlett
Occupations: Labourer
Age: ?
So about the only thing that can be said about this entry for a Charles Bartlett is that he does in fact live in Lemburg in 1911.
Other Members of the same household:
Alfred Bagg Male Husband
Minfried (?) Bagg Female Wife
Thomas Bagg M
Robert Bagg M
Sarah Bagg F
Thomas Frank M Labourer
All of which from the point of your research really doesn't tell you anything. Sorry.
dollylee
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Elizabeth Revel
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Thank you dollylee for finding that.
I am sorry that I had not found it when I looked and thus misled you SM.
Beth
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Lancashire and Cheshire: Harding, Turner, Gandy, Rigby, Bancroft, Moorcroft, Wright Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall |
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suffolkmawther
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Hello Dollylee and Beth,
Thank you both so much for the information you have been able to find, I am very grateful 
I have been researching the names on the Memorial and as I am the Local History Recorder* for our village, I already had some information on the Bartlett family. Charles was one of fourteen children to Alfred and Sarah Bartlett. The information I have on Charles begins .....
Ambrose and Mary Bartlett were Little Waldingfield people, their son William was baptised in the parish church on 24th July 1739.
It is good to be able to put Charles' story into words, unfortunately he lost his life in the very last days of WWI and his final resting place is in France.
Thank you both very much for helping to bring the story of this Suffolk village lad to a close.
SM ...
* Suffolk Local History Council www.slhc.org.uk
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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Janice M
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Here is a copy of the 1911 Census.
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1911b/e085/e002103646.pdf
Birthdate: March 1883
Age 28
Birthplace: England
Immigrated in either 1908 or 1910
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Janice M
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Here are his attestation papers.
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/well2/229189a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/well2/229189b.gif
Full file can be ordered:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-130-e.html#g
Here is a link to the Veterans Affairs Canada Site with memorial to Charles Stephen Bartlett
http://tinyurl.com/yw6djl
War Diaries for the 46th Battalion
http://tinyurl.com/22z6hf
War Diaries (Search Page - in case you have more to look up)
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02015202_e.html
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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dollylee
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Janice
How were you able to read his birthdate and age on that census image?
Even the transcription had only ? for everything other than his name, sex and occupation. Did you somehow enhance the image?
dollylee
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Janice M
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I cheated a little.  I had my son look at it, and I guess his eyesight is much better than mine.
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Janice M
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Here are some more links.
Canadian Soldiers & Database Links
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,224524.0.html
A link to a story regarding the 46th Battalion’s battle in October 1918.
http://members.shaw.ca/flyingaces/cairns/
The Saskatchewan Dragoons
http://www.saskd.ca/skd-hon.htm
http://www.army.dnd.ca/SASKATCHEWAN_DRAGOONS/ww1.htm
The Encyclopedia of Saskatchewan
http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/46th_canadian_infantry_battalion_cef.html
http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/saskatchewan_dragoons.html
Book Title
The Suicide Battalion - Author - James L McWilliams
Our Roots (Book site) I could not find the above book on this site.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Janice M
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Another few links.
News from the Frontlines
http://ww1andww2.blogspot.com/2007/04/canadian-soldiers-mark-90th-anniversary.html
Saskatchewan Dragoons
http://www.saskd.ca/history.htm
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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suffolkmawther
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Janice M - thank you so much for so many links to check out.
I have Charles Bartlett's details from his Attestation papers and his details of arrival in Canada in 1910.
I needed to check the 1911 Census, and yes, I now have the details.
From our Commonwealth War Grave Commission web site I have the details of the battle which took place around Aulnoy (Valenciennes) in October/November 1918 just days before the Armistice was signed (in a railway carriage in the Foret de Compiegne). As Bury St Edmunds - where my children attended school - is twinned with Compiegne we have all visited the Museum there.
We regularly visit France and have often looked at various cemeteries with great sadness. We have also visited British, Canadian, Ulster and Newfoundlander Museums around northern France. This year I may try and visit a couple of the cemeteries I am learning about with regard to the village boys.
I have my first draft of the story of Charles Bartlett and am now researching another name on the Memorial - Private Harry Butcher (who lived in the village all his life, leaving only to travel across the Channel to fight for his country).
Thanks to Beth, Dollylee and Janice,
best regards, SM ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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