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charley101
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My great grandmother is Elizabeth Malyon, who married one James Moles in Bromley St Leonard on Dec 19th 1897. The marriage certificate says she was "21" (ha ha ?) (therefore born 1876) and that her father was George Malyon, labourer, deceased.
I have been unable to trace a birth record for Elizabeth and I cannot trace her whereabouts in the 1881 nor the 1891 census. In 1901 she is recorded living with hubby James Moles in Bromley by Bow and her place of birth is shown as "Bedfordshire" (But I think that's only becaue that is where James was born, in Stotfold).
However, my best guess to date is that she may have been the daughter of George Malyon, b 1839 or 1840, Buckland, Herts, who moved to St George in the East sometime between 1851 and 1861 and took up employment as a coal packer (1861 census) and coal whipper (1871 census). But because I can't locate her birth record, nor find her in the census before 1901 I can't actually prove that she is his daughter.......... and I'm not at all happy about having no proof !!
The problem is made worse by my finding at least 16 variants of the spelling of the surname Malyon (Mallion, Malyun, Mallyan, Malyan and Malson are but a few).
I am starting to feel as if I'm completely wasting my time if I go on on researching this branch of my family. Any advice about where I might go from here would be really appreciated - even if its "just give up now, before you go mad"........ 
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MALYON, Buckland / Therfield Herts (to 1861) and St George in the East (from 1871) The name appears in the census in various guises, including - Mallyan. Malyan. Mailon. Malson. Mallyon. Mallion. Malyun. Mallian. Maylin. Mealing. Meeling. Mailing. Maylen. Maylon.
DOVE, Shoreditch, 1841-1901.
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Barbara F
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Hello Charley101 and welcome to Rootschat.
I have had a first look around for you and found an Elizabeth Malyon in 1891 working as a servant to the Rogers family. The ref is RG12 309 f 89. She is 15 and born East London. Unfortunately of course this does not help with parents!
This birth ref might be useful if you think she could have been born in London.
Jun 1875
Malin Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 199
Spelling is wrong but maybe the person registering the birth could not read.
Who were the witnesses on Elizabeth's marriage certificate?
Barbara
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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent Fewell and Speller - Essex and London Headington and Bateman - London Feltwell - Norfolk and London Lewin - India and NZ Evan-Thomas - Wales and London Purser and Cook - Hunts Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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charley101
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Hello Barbara
Wow – what a prompt reply, I’m ever so impressed. Thankyou.
I too had found the census entry for an Elizabeth Malyon working as a servant, but as you say that don’t help much … except that her place of birth is given as “London E”.
Your fresh eye on this is great. I was getting swamped in a sea of alternative surname spellings and hadn’t picked up the possibility of Malin – so now, unbelievably, it’s 17 and still counting.
Consequently I haven’t come across the birth record for one Elizabeth Malin in Bethnal Green before, which is in the right sort of area, so I’ll send for a copy of that certificate and see what the postie brings.
The witnesses were Charles Saggs (for the groom) and John Fenton (for the bride). Neither of which seem to help at all – I think (from census information) that Fenton was probably a warehouseman and confectioner from Wellington Rd Bromley by Bow and that Saggs was a printer / compositor from Holborn.
I’ll let you know what happens - you are a star.
Thanks
Dave
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MALYON, Buckland / Therfield Herts (to 1861) and St George in the East (from 1871) The name appears in the census in various guises, including - Mallyan. Malyan. Mailon. Malson. Mallyon. Mallion. Malyun. Mallian. Maylin. Mealing. Meeling. Mailing. Maylen. Maylon.
DOVE, Shoreditch, 1841-1901.
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Barbara F
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Hello Dave
I am still trying to find Elizabeth in 1881 and came across a Malyon family shown only with initials. Ref is RG11 231 f 41. The Head is G T Malyon and checking back to 1871 and looking at Free BMD he looks to be a George Thomas Malyon who married a Rebecca. George T died in 1883. One of the children in 1881 appears to be L Malyon - could be Lizzie? All the children are shown as born in Shoreditch. George is a Pork Butcher - not really a labourer, but if he died young Elizabeth may have known very little about him. You may want to check this family out.
Another thought that occurred to me is that illegitimate children often made up the name of a father and stated deceased for the purpose of the marriage certificate.
Will let you know if I come across anything else.
Barbara
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