|
Pages: [1]
|
 |
|
Author
|
Topic: Challoners in Ketley (Read 323 times)
|
angelfish58
RootsChat Member
 Offline
Posts: 149
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
I'm trying to trace anything at all about James Challoner b 1867 in Ketley, by the 1890's he was living in the North East of England. I have found some census details but as the surname is spelt Challinor, Chellener, Challenor and Chalnor I'm not very confident. Any help gratefully received.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
|
|
|
Gadget
RootsChat Marquessate
 Online
Posts: 17398
My lovely Mum
|
Is this his Birth reference:
March quarter, 1867, Wellington, Shropshire, Vol 6a, page 763 as James Challnor
Regards
Gadget
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gadget
RootsChat Marquessate
Online
Posts: 17398
My lovely Mum
|
In 1871 Ketley Sand , Wellington RG10/2808 Folio 37 Page 11
William Chalnor, 36, Puddler
Elizabeth, 35
Henry, 11
Mary, 10
William, 8
Thomas, 6
James, 4
Ann, 1
All born Ketley Sand
Gadget
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gadget
RootsChat Marquessate
Online
Posts: 17398
My lovely Mum
|
There's a marriage ref for a William Challinor Dec q, 1857, Wellington, Vol 6a, page 1453
Unfortunately the two females on the page are both Elizabeth - Mansell and Powell
Gadget
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
angelfish58
RootsChat Member
Offline
Posts: 149
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Wow fantastic, I shall check those out. Thank you so much Gadget x
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
|
|
|
Gadget
RootsChat Marquessate
Online
Posts: 17398
My lovely Mum
|
I had a look on the 1851 for an Elizabeth Powell and Mansell but nothing there that was obviously her.
Perhaps get the birth cert to get her maiden surname.
Gadget
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
JAP
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4357
|
Looks as though it was Elizabeth MANSELL.
1881
RG11/4895/112
50 Thorp St, Stockton on Tees, Durham
MANSELL William, Mar, 66, b Ketley Shropshire, Labourer in Ironworks
MANSELL Elizabeth, 67, b Ketley Shropshire
MANSELL William, 12, b Stockton, Durham, Scholar
CHALONER Henry, 21, b Ketley Shropshire, Labourer in Ironworks
CHALONER William, 18, b Ketley Shropshire, Labourer in Ironworks
Others of the family still in Shropshire.
1881
RG11/2680/19
Ketley, Wellington, Shropshire
CHALLINOR Elizabeth, Widow, 44, b Wellington
CHALLINOR Mary, U, 20, Dressmaker, b Wellington
CHALLINOR Thomas, U, 16, Labr in Ironworks, b Wellington
CHALLINOR James, U, 14, Labr in Ironworks, b Wellington
Likely death of the father:
CHALLNOR William, death, September quarter 1876, age 40, Wellington, Shropshire, Volume 6a, Page 503
JAP
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
|
|
|
angelfish58
RootsChat Member
Offline
Posts: 149
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Wow, how did you find that? Thank you so much for your help.
*wanders off muttering about being hopeless*
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
|
|
|
JAP
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4357
|
Hi angelfish,
Not at all!
First I looked up Henry CHALLONER in the 1881 census on FamilySearch.
The census facility is only half-working on FamilySearch at present - if that! But it still combines many spellings and there weren't all that many with the given name of Henry so it was easy to find one b ca 1860 in Ketley. And he was with a MANSELL family in Durham plus one of his brothers. He's actually listed in the index as the MANSELL Head's Grandson - but that isn't currently showing in the household ...
Then I looked for your James b ca 1867 in Ketley - and there he was still in Ketley with his Mum Elizabeth and other siblings.
(I now notice that there's also a Henry CHALLINOR, Iron Pudler, b Ketley, age 37, lodging in Wellington with a MOORE family.)
Then I looked for a likely death of William on FreeBMD after finding that Elizabeth was a widow.
All free facilities!
All the best,
JAP
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
|
|
|
angelfish58
RootsChat Member
Offline
Posts: 149
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Thank you, I've only been doing this for a week so still have a lot to learn, funny you should mention the Moores, in the 1891 census Elizabeth Challoner had a William Moore boarding with her at 2 Thorpe St Stockton on Tees and in 1871 Joseph and Sarah Chellener (spelling 1851  ) had a Henry Moore (brother in law) living with them. I made a bit of a leap and assumed that Moore was Sarahs maiden name. Tbh I made a bit of an assumption that they were Williams parents but the Moore connection is starting to look a lot less tenuous.
As you can see *coughs* I've made a lot of progress  . I shall check out those sites you mentioned but my heads spinning trying to keep the generations in order, the Mansells seem to be my great-great-great grandparents  . I wouldn't have got this far without help from you two.
Thank you again. x
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
|
|
|
JAP
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4357
|
Hi angelfish58,
A week or so!! Brilliant progress!
I assume you are looking on FamilySearch at:
http://www.familysearch.org/
And on FreeBMD at:
(this won't seem to work on this site so I'll replace '.' by 'dot')
http://www.freebmd dot org dot uk
And on FreeCEN at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/
And GENUKI at:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/
Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Very best of luck,
JAP
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
|
|
|
angelfish58
RootsChat Member
Offline
Posts: 149
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Just had a quick look on FamilySearch and found 2 christenings for William Mansells in 1815 in Shropshire, one in Wellington (my favourite) and one Wroxeter so could possibly have found Williams parents.
Don't think I've seen freecen so I'm off there now to suss it out.
Thank you x
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1]
|
|
|
|
|
