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toni*
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Philip BEER b.1812
« on: Sunday 13 May 07 16:54 UTC (UK) »
1812 Philip Beer born Bideford / Monkleigh Devon
1838 Marriage to Eliza Parkhouse 31.03.1838 Monkleigh Devon
Philip listed as Bachelor, Schoolmaster, of Monkleigh, Father John Beer Master, witnesses John King and William Lile
1839 birth of son Lewis Bideford
1841 birth of son Philip Bideford
1843 birth of daughter Mary Jane Bideford
1845 birth of daughter Eliza East The Water, Bideford birth certificate states father Philip Beer occupation Clerk
1851 Census Philip Beer b. Monkleigh (bideford) Devon circa 1811 living Torrington Lane Bideford occupation Accountant
1861 moved from Devon to Kenwyn Cornwall where he was a school master
1867 daughter Eliza married Samuel Vinton 26.05.1867 in St Newlyn (she was pregnant and living with Samuel at the time of marriage) states father Philip Beer School master
1871 living next door to Richard Vinton - son-in-laws brother - at 24 Downy Lane, listed as widower, age 52 lodging with Mary Morcamb and her husband.
1873 Newquay Directory, Philip Beer, Parish Clerk
1873 Newquay Directory, Philip Beer, Schoolmaster Oxnams Parochial School  (for boys and girls)
1873 Kellys directory BEER Philip, Parish Clerk Newlyn


does anyone have any other information to fill in the missing gaps? for any of the above named?
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janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 May 07 14:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi Toni
Here they are in 1841
Jan Wink

Hone Stone, Bideford
Philip Beer 25 Publican
Eliza do 25
George do 3
Lewis do 1
Philip do 7weeks
Mary Packhouse 65 Nurse
Mary White 20 F S
All born in county
HO107/242/12/14 pg22
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
toni*
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 May 07 14:35 UTC (UK) »
thanks i think Eliza Beer nee Parkhouse died in 1870 and Philip in 1889
Eliza the daughter died in 1891 i have her death certificate
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
toni*
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 May 07 14:37 UTC (UK) »
could mary Packhouse be Mary Parkhouse? is she listed as a relation ? as Philips wife Eliza was Eliza PArkhouse and could possibly be her mother.
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 May 07 14:43 UTC (UK) »
Hi Toni
I've rechecked - I think it is Parkhouse. Unfortunately the 1841 doesn't give relationships. Ages for adults also tend to be rounded to nearest 5 eg 25 is 25-29. I would think there is a high chance that Mary is related somehow.
Looks like wee George died before the 1851 census.
Philip seems to change jobs quite a bit Cheesy
Jan Wink

Have you found Philip in 1881? I can't see him, or did you mean he died 1879?
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
toni*
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 May 07 14:50 UTC (UK) »
yes he did change his jobs quite abit but later settled as schoolmaster! Grin

thanks for the info. re Mary i can now look for a marriage between Richard Parkhouse and Mary Unknown as Elizas parents.

is there any chance you can look on the 1851 census for Richard and Mary Parkhouse both born devon although not sure where, i only have the details for Richards from his daughters marriage certificate. they may have died by then.
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 May 07 15:06 UTC (UK) »
I'll have a look later - my broadband connection has slowed to dial-up speed on a very bad day  Grin . Do you have an occupation for Richard ?
Cheers
Jan Wink
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 May 07 15:10 UTC (UK) »
To avoid any duplication look ups   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,232566.0.html
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 May 07 15:17 UTC (UK) »
the full marriage certificate is as follows:

married March 31st 1838 in the church of Monkleigh
Philip Beer and Eliza Parkhouse both aged 25
Philip Bachelor and Eliza Spinster
Philip occupation Schoolmaster
Eliza occupation Glover both residence in Monkleigh
fathers name and surname John Beer and Richard Parkhouse
John Beer Master
and Richard Parkhouse Labourer
witnesses John King and William Lile
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 May 07 16:33 UTC (UK) »
Hi Patrish
Thanks for the link - fills me in a bit. I'm sticking with looking for Richard Parkhouse at present.
Cheers Jan Wink
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 May 07 16:49 UTC (UK) »
Hi toni
Nothing very helpful. In 1851 there is no sign of Mary Parkhouse in Bideford - there is one candidate but matching her with the 41 she is not the one you are looking for. I can't see Richard in 41/51 in Monkleigh/Bideford area.

There is a death for a Mary Parkhouse in Bideford in 1845 on FreeBMD - this could be her but no guarantee Mary is Eliza's mum. There is also an 1859 death for a Richard in Bideford - hmm I'll have another scout for him in 41/51.

Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 May 07 16:57 UTC (UK) »
Sorry no sign - there are a couple of much younger Richards in the area who could be the death. Looks as if he died between 1838-41. However although he should have been listed as deceased on the marriage cert if he was already dead by then it didn't always happen, so you could be looking at a pre-registration death for him.
Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 May 07 17:02 UTC (UK) »
How about this IGI marriage, extracted record, as a possible for Eliza's parents?

Richard Parkhouse to Mary Sing at Monkleigh on 3 May 1795

There is also a a suitable 1813 baptism for an Eliza in Monkleigh parents Richard and Mary

Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
toni*
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 May 07 17:09 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Jan,

Richard Parkhouse is not listed as deceased on the marriage certificate (of his daughter) so i am assuming he was still alive then.
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
janan
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Re: Philip Beer b.1812
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 May 07 17:15 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: toni* on Monday 14 May 07 17:09 UTC (UK)


Richard Parkhouse is not listed as deceased on the marriage certificate (of his daughter) so i am assuming he was still alive then.



Never assume anything Cheesy I do have one marriage certificate where I know   the father of the bride was deceased (I have his death cert) but it does not say so.

Jan Wink
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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