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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 17:43 UTC (UK) »

While my food was cooking, I found that a William Williamson married a Betsy McLeod in 1859, Halkirk.

The GROS ref is 37 Page 4

It might be worth having a look at the certificate.

The only other possible  married a Catherine Sutherland, 1863, Latheron - GROS ref - 38 Page 4

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 18:51 UTC (UK) »

you are a star. I received the email and I will suss out the williamson connection. I have to get ready for work. Hope your supper was yummy.
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 19:15 UTC (UK) »

By my information only Janet didn't come to NZ, of the daughters. That would make her most likely to have married our williamson.

(noted your comment regarding the other thread, good idea).

Alexander came here last, perhaps when his parents died and was known as sandy.

So, only Donald and janet remained in Scotland. 
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 19:29 UTC (UK) »

I'm wondering about this 'Betsy', Tracey.If they married in 1859, could she be the Esther?

I'll have a more thorough look.

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 19:33 UTC (UK) »

Yep - it's Betsy - aged what looks like 33 in 1859. Correct parents - John Mcleod and Christina Sutherland   -so 1826 birth. Hm are we missing someone - maybe it was Mary  Huh

The plot thickens.

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Added - even to the address - Rumsdale -  and John being a shepherd Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 19:57 UTC (UK) »

Just checked the 1861 census for the Williamsons:

East Lormsdale 37 6 page 5

William Williamson , 36, farmer of 10 acres, b. Halkirk
Elizabeth, 34, b. Halkirk
Janet Williamson, sister ,24
Alexander McLeod, 18, brother in law
William W Sutherland, 2 month, nephew

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Added - I think the Sarah -> Esther became Elizabeth  or it was Janet Shocked
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 20:21 UTC (UK) »

By 1871 William seems to have 100 acres

District 38 Ed 9 page 7

Rangag, Latheron

William, 46, farmer of 100 acres - 29 arable, b. Halkirk
Elizabeth, 44, b. Halkirk
Christina, 6, b. Halkirk
William. 4, b. Latheron
Elizabeth, 1, b. Latheron
William Sutherland, 11, b. Halkirk

Note that this was where Christina Mcleod died.

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 20:49 UTC (UK) »

Turning back to your John M(a)cleod . b.circa 1795, Farr, Sutherland, Parents -  Donald McLeod and Mary McKay:

The LDS site is playing up at the moment so I can't find anything on them. However, it is worth your while having a look for children of this pair when things are normal.

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:01 UTC (UK) »

Gadget

I cannot thank you enough! I will re-check when everyone is supposed to have come to NZ that should help with the wedding. I got your email but cannot read the wedding certificate.

According to my information Esther didn't marry til she was here and that was to William Sutherland.

Mary was apparently married to Donald Ross, which meas the grandchild (Ross) in one of the ensus was hers?

Catherine married James Taylor, in Scotland and came to NZ in 1886

William married (presumably in Scotland) Barbara McKay

Here's where it gets odd and perhaps Janet (who gets NO mention in our family info) DID become Elizabeth because I found a reference to Elizabeth McLeod (Mrs Williamson) one of the daughters of John and Christuina McLeod "who remained in scotland". Her daughter Christina Campbell, however, once widowed came to NZ to join her relatives in 1910.

So, Janet became Elizabeth??born 1838?

Mary was born 1828
Sarah/Esther 1833?
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:09 UTC (UK) »

I'll resend as Jpg, Tracey.

All the info I have is that Elizabeth was 33 whe she was married in 1859 - i.e b. 1825-26 - and all subsequent censuses confirm this. Maybe she was the 'one that got away'. In1841, she would have been 14 or so, old enough to already be a domestic servant whic is on the marriage cert.

I'll have a lok at the 1841 for her.

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:19 UTC (UK) »

There is an interesting entry in 1841

Westerdale Halkirk

Donald George, 70-74
Christina George, 70-74
Christina McLeod, 20-24
Elizabeth Mcleod, 20-24

Chistina and Elizabeth are both servants. There are no others near this. I suppose the age could have been rounded up  rather than down Undecided

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:24 UTC (UK) »

I'm guessing that servants were written in the census by the head or did a visiitng person fill them out? Maybe a man was guessing the age?Huh
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:26 UTC (UK) »

The head of household was supposed to supply the information, so all is possible Smiley

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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 21:39 UTC (UK) »

Well, I think I've found her in 1851 with her two brothers:

Backlass, Halkirk District 37 ED 12 Page 6

William Mcleod, 20, shepherd
Elizabeth, sister, 25
Farquar, 11, brother

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From the 1851, which I previously found:

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Rumsdale, Halkirk  District 37 ED 12 page 3

John, 54, Shepherd, b. Farr, Sutherland
Christina, 52, b. Latheron
Esther, 18
James, 16
Janet, 13
Alexander, 8
Catherine, 5

Esther and Janet are at home, so Elizabeth is an elder daughter and not yet discovered in the baptisms.
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Re: McLeod - Caithness - Help needed making out names on census
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 16 May 07 00:37 UTC (UK) »

Wow, I see. So, as you suspected, she was out of the house by the 1841 census and so flew under our radar...
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